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I say get the 580
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The 580 will be a much better card. It kind of seems like you're expecting your old games that hardly (if at all) support DX11 to somehow look better, which won't happen. DX11 has not been properly integrated into any games yet to be quite honest. Mostly because the market lies with the console kiddies and those only support DX9.

If you've got the money, buy a 580 now and it will last you at least a few years. I guarantee you won't regret it, it will be day and night.
    
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Have you considered the 560 Ti or 6950? If you're sticking with 1920x1080 for the foreseeable future, these cards support DX11 and will give you decent FPS in current titles with most options enabled. They go for around $220-250 USD and would still be a huge improvement over a GTX295.
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Have you considered the 560 Ti or 6950? If you're sticking with 1920x1080 for the foreseeable future, these cards support DX11 and will give you decent FPS in current titles with most options enabled. They go for around $220-250 USD and would still be a huge improvement over a GTX295.
I thought about it, but I don't want "decent" fps LOL. I want HIGH fps. Thanks for the suggestion though. I can afford the 580, just didn't want to buy it and be disappointed.

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Your cpu will absolutely not bottleneck a 580, you've got a very nice overclock on it. Plan on getting my 1055T up to around 4 when i get a cooler that isn't stock >___<. As for your gpu dilemma, I just want to put in a suggestion, a 570. I was in your position a few months ago, looking for a great gpu for a reasonable price. I was looking at a 560ti, but it just didn't seem strong enough for what I wanted to do. Sure the clocks on it are amazingly high, but it lacks the physical hardware to back them up. My 570 at stock probably beats the 560ti overclocked versions by about 15 - 20%. I overclocked it a bit, as seen in my sig, and I'm getting nice frames on crysis 2, maxed out at 50. From what I read you ain't a fan of 50, but let me tell you, you will not notice much of a difference honestly. Maybe a bit from 50 to 60, but anything above that is either a) above your screen refresh rate anyway, so kinda pointless if you are going to use vysnc (from what I can tell you wouldn't like screen tearing so you would be the kinda guy to use it) or b) too expensive to maintain constantly.
560ti = around 250 bucks
570 = around 350 bucks
580 = around 500 bucks
The 570 is smack bang in the middle of these two, and in my opinion, offers the best price to performance ratio. Do a bit of googling and compare the physical hardware on both the 570 and the 580. They are pretty much like a 6950 and a 6970 in that the 570 is basically a *very slightly* downgraded 580. It has a little less VRAM (but I'm assuming you won't be using a res higher than 1080p or 1200p anyway, so kinda pointless), it has a slightly faster memory bus bandwidth, and slightly more cuda cores. So, basically the 580 is not that much of a jump from the 570 in terms of hardware, but a big jump in price. If you then wanted 580 like performance from a 570, get a good card with aftermarket cooling, pump up the volts and raise those clocks. I would think my sig card is close to a reference 580 in terms of performance, and I have obtained similar scores to those cards in 3d mark and the like.
Just a suggestion mate, it could help you save a bit of cash to put aside for another upgrade to kepler in the near future (if you wanted too). But by all means, if you want to spend the cash on it, grab a 580. You will definitely not be disappointed. I would specifically recommend an MSI lightning or the ASUS DCUII, great coolers on those two would allow you to get a nasty overclock on your gpu. Anyway, sorry for the tldr post, but good luck with your gpu hunting and more importantly, enjoy all that DX11 when you get it!
Edited by theSpacec0wboy - 8/4/11 at 2:46pm
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Your cpu will absolutely not bottleneck a 580, you've got a very nice overclock on it. Plan on getting my 1055T up to around 4 when i get a cooler that isn't stock >___<. As for your gpu dilemma, I just want to put in a suggestion, a 570. I was in your position a few months ago, looking for a great gpu for a reasonable price. I was looking at a 560ti, but it just didn't seem strong enough for what I wanted to do. Sure the clocks on it are amazingly high, but it lacks the physical hardware to back them up. My 570 at stock probably beats the 560ti overclocked versions by about 15 - 20%. I overclocked it a bit, as seen in my sig, and I'm getting nice frames on crysis 2, maxed out at 50. From what I read you ain't a fan of 50, but let me tell you, you will not notice much of a difference honestly. Maybe a bit from 50 to 60, but anything above that is either a) above your screen refresh rate anyway, so kinda pointless if you are going to use vysnc (from what I can tell you wouldn't like screen tearing so you would be the kinda guy to use it) or b) too expensive to maintain constantly.
560ti = around 250 bucks
570 = around 350 bucks
580 = around 500 bucks
The 570 is smack bang in the middle of these two, and in my opinion, offers the best price to performance ratio. Do a bit of googling and compare the physical hardware on both the 570 and the 580. They are pretty much like a 6950 and a 6970 in that the 570 is basically a *very slightly* downgraded 580. It has a little less VRAM (but I'm assuming you won't be using a res higher than 1080p or 1200p anyway, so kinda pointless), it has a slightly faster memory bus bandwidth, and slightly more cuda cores. So, basically the 580 is not that much of a jump from the 570 in terms of hardware, but a big jump in price. If you then wanted 580 like performance from a 570, get a good card with aftermarket cooling, pump up the volts and raise those clocks. I would think my sig card is close to a reference 580 in terms of performance, and I have obtained similar scores to those cards in 3d mark and the like.
Just a suggestion mate, it could help you save a bit of cash to put aside for another upgrade to kepler in the near future (if you wanted too). But by all means, if you want to spend the cash on it, grab a 580. You will definitely not be disappointed. I would specifically recommend an MSI lightning or the ASUS DCUII, great coolers on those two would allow you to get a nasty overclock on your gpu. Anyway, sorry for the tldr post, but good luck with your gpu hunting and more importantly, enjoy all that DX11 when you get it!
Thanks for all the advice, I guess if I went with a 570, I could just buy an already assembled 570 with a water block, or buy a 570 and a waterblock for it for about the same price? I don't know **** about water cooling, but I was contemplating doing that when I do the video card in a few weeks.....Then again...the Asus 580 DCII or whatever it is on sale for 469$. The cheapest 570, is 300 and I don't know if that reference or not, I am sure I need a reference to cool it, and I was reading about vrm issues with the 570....so...liquid cool a 570 or buy a 580? LOL Decisions...



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Edited by Ihasfip - 8/4/11 at 8:10pm
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From what I've heard the VRM issues with the reference 570s have been sorted out with the latest batches, so yea if you wanted to water cool one of them that would be a good idea. But, if that asus 580 is cheaper than the water cooled 570, definitely get the 580. You won't need to watercool the asus 580 unless you are doing some extreme stuff with it, the aftermarket cooler on that is amazing. I would say the same for the asus dcII 570, but I can't see why watercooling won't help if that's what you want to do (and personally in my next build I WILL be watercooling everything).
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From what I've heard the VRM issues with the reference 570s have been sorted out with the latest batches, so yea if you wanted to water cool one of them that would be a good idea. But, if that asus 580 is cheaper than the water cooled 570, definitely get the 580. You won't need to watercool the asus 580 unless you are doing some extreme stuff with it, the aftermarket cooler on that is amazing. I would say the same for the asus dcII 570, but I can't see why watercooling won't help if that's what you want to do (and personally in my next build I WILL be watercooling everything).
Well I am very happy with my Antec Kuhler for my CPU, BUT I live in Texas, and today it was 108 degrees. Even with a brand new a/c unit for my house (inside and outside), it gets up to about 80f in the house during the day, with the a/c set on 70f......plus I have a gas stove/oven in the kitchen which is connected to my dining room, where my pc is...so the Antec does great at 2 in the morning, but in the late afternoon or evening when I am cooking dinner, the fans have to ramp up to about 80% to keep the cpu at 45c while gaming. The fans are loud, and it gets annoying. So I have been thinking about going full liquid with a big radiator. But yea, I think they would be about the same cost, maybe the 570 a bit cheaper.... I don't know, because I don't know which 570s are reference and which are not.

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