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Hey guys,

Need your professionalism relating to my current PC built as attached in my signature:
  • CPU: Intel C2Q Q9550 @ 3.4!
  • Motherboard: Asus P5Q Pro
  • Memory: 4x Kingston 2GB PC2-6400 CL3
  • Graphics Card: MSI GTX285 1GB DDR3
  • Hard Drive: WD 1TiB
  • Sound Card: Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic
  • Power Supply: Acbel M8 750W
  • Case: NZXT Lexa Blackline Blue LED Edition
  • OS: Windows Vista Ultimate x64 SP2

I would like to if possible make use of the current old parts and integrate into a better system for gaming and graphic design.

My spare cash:
USD $1250/-

Was looking at the following:
  • Processor: Intel Core i7-2600K 3.4-3.8GHz Turbo HT Unlocked Multiplier
  • Cooling: Corsair A70 Dual 120mm fans CPU Cooler
  • Graphic card: MSI GeForce GTX 570
  • OS: Windows 7 Professional 64 bit

My questions are that:
  • Is there any parts that I currently have can be integrated to the new desired PC built?
  • Can my current graphic card be used with MSI GeForce GTX 570 in SLI?
  • Anyone else that I should add on top of these?

Thanks a lot,
appreciate any help.
(:
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post #2 of 12
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Originally Posted by Mitsuki View Post
My questions are that:
  • Is there any parts that I currently have can be integrated to the new desired PC built?
  • Can my current graphic card be used with MSI GeForce GTX 570 in SLI?
  • Anyone else that I should add on top of these?
- Yes. HDD, Soundcard, PSU, Case.

- No. You have to run identical cards in SLI. Only exception is tri-SLI with a GTX590 and a GTX580.

- Do you need HyperThreading? If not, save money and go for a 2500K instead, perhaps spending what you save on an SSD to act as a boot drive. Or saving the money for the future. You'll need new RAM, but DDR3 is pretty cheap ATM.

Hope this helps.
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post #3 of 12
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@Paradigm Shifter
Thanks for your information, was very helpful!

Anyway,
  • Which means I need to get rid of my GTX285.. but for SLI, is it deem to be extremely like important for the tasks that I am going to work on? especially towards rendering and gaming..
  • Ah yes, HT is quite important to me I guess because a little programming, listening music, grapic designing (multi tasking)? if that is not wrong from what I have researched..
  • For RAM, I am looking at CORSAIR XMS 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 2000MHz CAS 9 1.65v
  • As for the mobo, which one should I get? Since I have my own wireless adaptor (Cisco Wireless N Adapter) and sound card (Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music).. should I take on the 'brand' instead?

The price I got from a local hardware store (All prices are in USD):
CPU+Mobo (Bundled): Intel LGA1155 Core i5 2500K @ 3.3Ghz + Gigabyte H61M-USB3-B3 H61/USB3/GBL -- $345/-
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz CL9 @ 8GB -- $112/-
GPU: 1x MSI N560GTX-TI Hawk 1GB GDDR5 -- $297/-
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64 bit OEM -- $179/-
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Total: $933/-
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Any more suggestions anyone?
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post #4 of 12
The importance of SLI to you will vary based on the resolution you're running. If you're running 1080p (as most seem to now) then it's a nice bonus, but not really essential. If you're going to try running 2560x1600 or Surround, you'll probably need SLI for good framerates. (Actually if you want Surround, SLI is a requirement). Unless you've got a rendering program that can render on the GPU, the GPU won't have much of an effect there - it's all CPU.

A quad core is already very good at multitasking; HyperThreading is only really an advantage in scenarios which love core count (and even then, real cores are better) but for rendering/encoding, HyperThreading is a very, very useful extra. For gaming... well, most games are still essentially single threaded - or at best dual threaded. A very fast 4 core beats a slower 6 or 8 core CPU in gaming.

As for RAM... Sandy Bridge (the codename of the generation of CPUs you're looking at) aren't "officially" supposed to support 1.65v on the RAM. Intel say in their spec sheets than RAM voltage should be 1.5v +/- 5%, so a max of 1.58v or you could kill the memory controller integrated into the CPU. In practice, that's not quite true - people do run higher, but I'd aim at something like the 2x4GB Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz 1.5v kit, as that sits happily within the Intel specs.

I can't really recommend a mobo; I've got experience of one P67 board, the P8P67-M Deluxe, which is a good board, but it's m-ATX (which I needed for that particular build). I'd suggest looking at the P8P67 Deluxe, or just surfing some tech sites reading reviews until you find one that you like the sound of, feature wise, layout wise and price wise.

Do you need Windows 7 Pro? If not, Home Premium is just as good, and supports up to 16GB of RAM (this is a limit imposed by MS in the 64-bit version to get you to buy Ultimate if you want more than that amount of RAM). W7HP64 will save you a bit of money if you don't need Pro.

Can you buy online? I'd not combine the 2500K with a board you can't overclock it on (need P67 or Z68 for that) it's a waste of an unlocked chip. You're using $, but is that US, CA, AU?
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post #5 of 12
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@Paradigm Shifter
Thanks for your kind help again!

All the prices I gave are in USD$.

Oh yeah, thanks for the heads up, your comments gave me an idea to do more research before attempt, especially on the mobo part.

I guess it's true that I do not need W7P64, just W7HP64 will do.

Dang it, shrugs it will be better to invest into the SLI part then appears that 2x GPU ftw.

Cheers, thanks a lot. Hopefully someone will add in their thots too!
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As stated before, look for a 1.5v ram kit. If I read your post correctly, it looks like you're eyeballing 4 sticks of 2gb? You're better off getting 2 sticks of 4gb. Also, I'm not sure if you're aware of this or not, but your used Q9550 still fetches $180+ on the used market. As far as the rest of your build, all you really need to do is grab a cpu/mb/ram/cooler combo and see if that satisfies you. Your video card may be sufficient for your current needs, so give it a try before replacing it unless you have the upgrade itch. I guess dumping Vista isn't a bad idea,either Btw, these guys will definitely try to talk you into a $200 motherboard to shoot for world records, but it's not needed.
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@sccr64472
Thanks for your help too!

yeah, cpu/mobo/ram/cooler is what i need.
need something more indepth like the built/brand/type

my current research thru google is very vague, hard to come to a conclusion
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post #8 of 12
Something like:

2600K/MSI P67 mobo bundle You mentioned rendering, hence the 2600K selection.

8GB (in two DIMMs) memory RAM is pretty much of a muchness. If they're rated equally, they'll do what they say on the tin, so to speak.

Something like this for CPU cooler? Not sure about the CPU cooler; I've used Thermalright the most in the recent past, but maybe one of the all-in-one closed-loop watercooled systems from Corsair might be worth a punt. Thermalright and the Corsair setups are kind of expensive, which I why I chose that Zalman sink. It'll give you some headroom if you want to push that unlocked CPU a little and Zalman used to be very, very good. Even so, check out a couple of reviews of it to see what it's like.
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@Paradigm Shifter
Thanks a million!

Nice.. Just what I was looking for..
I think I gonna get a SSD too, maybe a CORSAIR 2.5" 120GB Force3 SandForce/bracket/SATA3..

So for the OS part, I just install the OS into my new 120GB Consair SSD as main and then set my old 1TiB WD as slave thats all right?

Pardon my nubness. (:
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post #10 of 12
Dude, overclock that Q9550 to 4.0 (after getting a decent heat sink on it), grab some 1066 ram to give you some wiggle room and so you don't need to mess with the ram during your overclock, and get to work.

Your chip should easily do 475x8
 
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