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... I'm a Computer Engineer, I want to build embedded systems, design circuits and whatnot. ...
^This.

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Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post
I work as a system developer for Fixed Income (bonds, mortgages, structured fianance, swaps, futures, options, etc).

I figure out what the business wants, analyze data, provide designs/architecture, and then build stuff. We work on Windows, Unix, and Linux servers and build with SQL, Java, Perl, BASH scripting, .NET, and C++. Many of our projects take 3-18 months to complete.

Once a week, I have to do Help Desk supporting our 2000+ daily processes and 2-3 dozen application for GBs of financial data.

Software engineer. Check.
Support and Help Desk. Check.
Business analyst. Check.
Project manager. Check.
Business skills. Check.
Database administration. Check.
Hardware engineering. Good enough.... I know more about CPUs/memory/architecture/performance than most from overclocking.

^Win.


I'd really like it if they gave a little bit more info on the details of what they define a "hardware engineer" to be. If they're talking about the person stuck fixing computers, etc. Then yeah, that's getting smaller and smaller.
However, chip designers and the like aren't going anywhere anytime soon. I don't have the resources to pool solid data, but I *think* they are probably rising in demand as we are on an incredibly steep slope tech-wise.

Processes are getting smaller, architectures are changing faster and embedded systems are getting more and more powerful: they need designers.
(Granted, it is one of those fields which will eventually wash you out if you can't keep up with the pace. )
Such a field needs people who understand hardware and software enough to optimize their products.
I agree with the general conclusion of the article (Can't speak of Cloud and Virtualization just yet). In my opinion:

Hardware + Software + Business/Managerial/People skills = win.

Great read!
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I have to admit, I envy you guys with the coding knowledge. I seriously should have stuck with it; but I felt that I wasn't smart enough to continue on. So I am going to stick with virtualization, hardware and basic software support.
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Great read! Glad I am making the right choices when it comes to my IT career.
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Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post
I work as a system developer for Fixed Income (bonds, mortgages, structured fianance, swaps, futures, options, etc).

I figure out what the business wants, analyze data, provide designs/architecture, and then build stuff. We work on Windows, Unix, and Linux servers and build with SQL, Java, Perl, BASH scripting, .NET, and C++. Many of our projects take 3-18 months to complete.

Once a week, I have to do Help Desk supporting our 2000+ daily processes and 2-3 dozen application for GBs of financial data.

Software engineer. Check.
Support and Help Desk. Check.
Business analyst. Check.
Project manager. Check.
Business skills. Check.
Database administration. Check.
Hardware engineering. Good enough.... I know more about CPUs/memory/architecture/performance than most from overclocking.
Be my mentor. I'm an IT tech
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Going after Master of Science in Engineering, Information Technology. Probably gonna take my master in Technology, Society and the Environment.

I freaking hope that I can get a good paying job when Im done.
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I think in the next 5 to 10 years manual labor will surpass the tech industry in demand. It seems as though everyone wants to be a business man or an IT guy and everyone is forgetting that actual physical labor still needs to be done. With the babyboomers of the late 60's set to retire over the next 10 years these holes will open up and a lot of people will be scrambling to fill the void but the only people available will not be willing to get their hands dirty.
Software engineers are constantly working to put themselves out of a job and one day it will happen, hardware is having fewer and fewer breakthroughs and some people working from home by themselves can get more done than an entire firm in terms of innovations and work.

I could be way off but I know where I work we have half a dozen people slated for retirement in the next 6 months and more to follow soon after. Hell more than half of this plant is going on 30+ years of working here and most of the younger people have no clue how to operate the machines or even care to learn.

These days you would be better off learning a trade because the demand for technicians, mechanics, hair dressers and the like are only going to increase with population.
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Be my mentor. I'm an IT tech
We're hiring for another developer. My boss said I could be his/her manager if I want.

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I think in the next 5 to 10 years manual labor will surpass the tech industry in demand. It seems as though everyone wants to be a business man or an IT guy and everyone is forgetting that actual physical labor still needs to be done.
Most workers in the US are not in the tech industry. There are also many who have no interest in as well.

There is not a lack of manual labor in the US.... there never has been. There might be a lack of skilled manual labor or lack of labor in specific areas.

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Software engineers are constantly working to put themselves out of a job and one day it will happen, hardware is having fewer and fewer breakthroughs and some people working from home by themselves can get more done than an entire firm in terms of innovations and work.
They are putting themselves out of work because they are improving and advancing so fast. Basically, they are becoming more efficient and knowledge. i.e. Try building web browser-based MMO in 1996 vs in 2006.

Some people cannot always replace a firm because there is always grunt work even in programming.

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These days you would be better off learning a trade because the demand for technicians, mechanics, hair dressers and the like are only going to increase with population.
Trades suffer the same issue. Nothing prevents trades from becoming obsolete. They have less room for advancement and often have limited transferrable skills.
Edited by DuckieHo - 8/4/11 at 11:43am
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As an IT skill perhaps, that sort of thing isn't really required in an IT environment. As a Computer Engineering student myself, I'm not too worried though. I've been working in a corporate IT environment for about 3 years, based pretty much on my own skillset along with my Computer Engineering schooling.

While I enjoy the daily tasks of server maintenance, active directory, blah blah blah....thats not what I want to do. I'm a Computer Engineer, I want to build embedded systems, design circuits and whatnot. I'm not too worried about the place of hardware engineering falling out of the IT market.
Yeah it seems like they don't understand that computer engineering is focused on embedded systems... There's always going to be work.

Edit: and I'm pretty sure the term Hardware Engineer doesn't refer to mister "I got my A+" putting CD drives in computers.. I imagine it means creating hardware.. i.e. circuits and the embedded systems running on them.
Edited by Phoriver - 8/4/11 at 12:01pm
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Yeah it seems like they don't understand that computer engineering is focused on embedded systems... There's always going to be work.
For some of that computer engineering, PhD (or at least a Master's) is going to be required.

Otherwise, the demand of computer engineering varies depending on area. There probably isn't much demand in Idaho but a lot in California or Austin.

(BTW, I graduated as a CE. )
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So Duckie how is a CpE and Business of Information Technology graduate going to fare out there in the real world.
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