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... post your conky config so we can take a look at it, see if we can spot your problem.
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${offset 240}${color slate grey}Processes: ${color }$processes  
${offset 240}${color slate grey}Running:   ${color }$running_processes

${offset 240}${color slate grey}Highest CPU:
${offset 240}${color #ddaa00} ${top name 1}${top_mem cpu 1}
${offset 240}${color lightgrey} ${top name 2}${top cpu 2}
${offset 240}${color lightgrey} ${top name 3}${top cpu 3}
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${offset 240}${color lightgrey} ${top_mem name 3}${top_mem mem 3}
${offset 240}${color lightgrey} ${top_mem name 4}${top_mem mem 4}

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Actually, now I think I see it myself (percentage issue?)... but I'll wait for feedback before editing. I'm not super familiar with conky, just with what is on their site for examples. I did write this .conkyrc from scratch...
    
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looks to me your conky config looks fine...try your fix that you see.

i would next ask is this a repo version of conky you are running or is it one you have compiled yourself?

it is definitely displaying total ram usage incorrectly...and i am not sure why, i will do some research see if i can find a reasonable explanation.
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Chrome uses more RAM than Firefox on average, I have no idea where this "Chrome uses less RAM" myth came from but it really needs to stop.

Firefox uses less RAM, but more memory, since its stores more information in your swap/page file. In terms of total virtual memory size Firefox actually uses slightly more memory (at least on Windows)

In addition, because so much of it is paged it makes it occasionally unresponsive, as it has to fetch whatever it was storing on the HDD.

I run swapless on my laptop, and memory usage between Chromium 15 and Firefox Nightly is nearly identical.
    
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yeah conky / top / ps do not report memory usage correctly. At least in the way you'd expect to make sense any of it. Believe it or not...

The only tool I am aware of that actually does is valgrind - http://valgrind.org/info/about.html ...

it's an instrumentation & profiling framework. I'm not really familiar with it, but a coworker of mine was using it to do exactly what you're talking about. I remember him ranting that none of the memory stats he was looking at ever lined up right.. and he used that to get correct numbers and see where his C code was going bad
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Look at that! Just 3.79 mb of memory to run firefox with streaming flash! Look familiar? It should because its your .conkyrc

Except no. top_mem displays memory percent, not total memory, as transhour said.


Firefox is taking up 30.67%, which is 582mb
X is taking up 13.96%, which is 265mb
plugin-container is 2.28%, which is 43.32mb

Which is 890mb total, seems pretty bang on to me. Especially the plugin-container. I have a hard time believing your copy of flash uses 5% of the memory my copy does.


What I can't understand is why your $mem variable is reporting in GB, when mine is reporting in MB.

But then the values reported by mine are 100% consistent with what KDE's system monitor reports, while yours is reporting that Firefox is using 30% of your ram, but the entire system is only using 15%.

According to Fedora's package repo we should both be using 1.8.1, but I think there may be a bug in yours.
    
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Look at that! Just 3.79 mb of memory to run firefox with streaming flash! Look familiar? It should because its your .conkyrc

Except no. top_mem displays memory percent, not total memory, as transhour said.


Firefox is taking up 30.67%, which is 582mb
X is taking up 13.96%, which is 265mb
plugin-container is 2.28%, which is 43.32mb

Which is 890mb total, seems pretty bang on to me. Especially the plugin-container. I have a hard time believing your copy of flash uses 5% of the memory my copy does.


What I can't understand is why your $mem variable is reporting in GB, when mine is reporting in MB.

But then the values reported by mine are 100% consistent with what KDE's system monitor reports, while yours is reporting that Firefox is using 30% of your ram, but the entire system is only using 15%.

According to Fedora's package repo we should both be using 1.8.1, but I think there may be a bug in yours.


that is weird nathris...i loaded up his conky into mine, and the numbers are spot on for what i see in task manager...
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that is weird nathris...i loaded up his conky into mine, and the numbers are spot on for what i see in task manager...
Even the /home partition is showing up wrong with nathris O.o
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Even the /home partition is showing up wrong with nathris O.o
Running them off of a single partition because I only had 10GB free on my SSD after Windows + Steam. Its correct since both /home and / are on /dev/sda5.


And transhour I'm not certain what you're saying. My numbers are spot on as well, its just that conky's $mem variable reports memory use in MB when its less than 1GB (actually 0.98GB).

It took a bit of work, but I finally managed to get my memory use high enough for it to switch. 47 tabs in Chrome + 8 in Firefox + Gedit = 1.0GB/4.82GB
    
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It took a bit of work, but I finally managed to get my memory use high enough for it to switch. 47 tabs in Chrome + 8 in Firefox + Gedit = 1.0GB/4.82GB
Whoa! That is some serious RAM management! It makes me wonder if the Xfce boys smelled blood when...

1) KDE released v4 too early
2) Gnome did a makeover and Ubuntu bailed

Kudos to Xfce!
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Whoa! That is some serious RAM management! It makes me wonder if the Xfce boys smelled blood when...

1) KDE released v4 too early
2) Gnome did a makeover and Ubuntu bailed

Kudos to Xfce!

No no no. That's Gnome 2(technically Mate), not Xfce. The only Xfce apps I have running are the screenshot program and power manager, since Mate doesn't come a power manager.
    
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