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how do u go about testing for something like this? seems like it would be interesting, but simply impossible
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Theoretical Physics is an easy target for mockery, but these theories have more rigorous mathematical backing than anyone here can likely appreciate. They often lack the ability to test the hypothesis because they are very difficult things to test.

Hopefully a method to confirm information, such as this, will give us further insight into current theory.
    
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The one sucked. It was like a multi-verse rip off Highlander. Different setting and such sure, but the theme was the same: "Kill specific people off one by one until only one is left, and they become uber-badass for it. THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!"

On topic: SLIDERS!
well you certainly wont be "the one"... not with an attitude like that.

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how do u go about testing for something like this? seems like it would be interesting, but simply impossible
nobody read my post lol.

About 30 years ago, when searching for signals in deep space...scientist noticed that there was a omnipresent backround noise. No matter where they pointed it would show it...later...it was hypothesized that this noise was radiation stemming from the big bang.

A satallite (or a modification to the hubble telescope..i forget which one) mapped the radiation on viewable universe...and the confluent spectrum of backround microwave radiation have evidence to the big bang in that the radiation was spread in all directions almost uniformly seen here


These scientist are going to do basically the same thing..as far as trying to find the radiation caused by big bang happening at other points of the universe.

How will that differentiate that radiation from the radiation from the big bang test in the 70's I have now idea tough.
Edited by fapestar - 8/10/11 at 3:18am
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This theory seems very unlikely to me.

I don't believe in the multiverse because I don't think that the matter which makes up the universe could possibly exist in any other way than it does. Whatever happened at the creation of the universe set all matter into motion and it continues its inevitable trajectory until whatever happens at the end of the universe. It's like a super-galactic Rube-Goldberg device.

Choice is an illusion. Probability and random chance are illusions. Free will is an illusion.

That being said, I have about as much evidence for my pre-conceptions as people who believe in multiverse theory. Heh.
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This theory seems very unlikely to me.

I don't believe in the multiverse because I don't think that the matter which makes up the universe could possibly exist in any other way than it does. Whatever happened at the creation of the universe set all matter into motion and it continues its inevitable trajectory until whatever happens at the end of the universe. It's like a super-galactic Rube-Goldberg device.

Choice is an illusion. Probability and random chance are illusions. Free will is an illusion.

That being said, I have about as much evidence for my pre-conceptions as people who believe in multiverse theory. Heh.

This goes back to Susskind's book 'Cosmic Landscape.' Matter can and does exist in different forms, and with different laws of physics over time. The trajectory since the back bang was hardly inevitable and quite simply random fluke that it ended up the way it did and not some other way.

Check it out.
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Its really sad to see how people in this thread are so close minded. Science fiction? Who knows? Not to long ago, phones and computers were science fiction. Cars were something, one could never even begin to understand. Its called evolution. If we do not research things that might be impossible, we will never evolve.
There is a fundamental difference between all of your examples and thus multiverse stuff: the ability to generate a practical use from that knowledge. Cars were something people could not begin to understand? Nonsense...there's a reason they called it a "horseless carraige".

But what possible practical benefit can we gain from proving the existence of multiverse bubbles? I'm not poo-pooing the quest for knowledge, I just wish more effort was spent on things that can benefit us all in a more immediate sense. How about these brilliant minds figure out how to get us to Mars for less than 800 gajillion dollars and in less than 50 years? Cripes, let's figure out how to get to the next star without needing a Generation Ship...then we can deal with the next galaxy over...and may then we'll be in a place where the next universe over makes a dang bit of difference.

The obvious rebuttle is that the research could turn into practical applications not necessarily related to the research itself, and are thus unpredictable. I accept that to a degree, but it's still ridiculous that we care about a multiverse at all. I want to see colonization of this galaxy, which will require all sorts of theoretical physics breakthroughs too. How about we focus on that? It's something we need. I fully expect them to crack the code for immortality (right after I die, of course), at which point the world will descend into chaos if we don't find more places to put people.
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Does no one find it fishy that this theory has become so mainstream and accepted without (thus far) a shred of proof? The main reason it was originally proposed was to avoid the existence of a God---to explain away the apparent fine-tuning of our universe.
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Does no one find it fishy that this theory has become so mainstream and accepted without (thus far) a shred of proof? The main reason it was originally proposed was to avoid the existence of a God---to explain away the apparent fine-tuning of our universe.
First, pretty much all theoretical physics is purely mathematical in nature. While not proof, it's not exactly based on "nothing" either. The fact that almost none of us can understand the mathematics doesn't negate the validity of the math. And then "proof" (or disproof) comes if/when technology advances enough to actually test the hypotheses...but by definition cannot occur before then.

And second, not to promulgate religion in a thread, but isn't what you're saying what all of the anti-science, pro-religious camp always says? That what science is trying to prove is only to minimize the belief in the deity-du-jour? At one time, it was a known fact that the universe was revolved around the Earth, and the very notion of trying to prove otherwise was blasphemy against the Church's teachings.
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And second, not to promulgate religion in a thread, but isn't what you're saying what all of the anti-science, pro-religious camp always says? That what science is trying to prove is only to minimize the belief in the deity-du-jour? At one time, it was a known fact that the universe was revolved around the Earth, and the very notion of trying to prove otherwise was blasphemy against the Church's teachings.
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Does no one find it fishy that this theory has become so mainstream and accepted without (thus far) a shred of proof? The main reason it was originally proposed was to avoid the existence of a God---to explain away the apparent fine-tuning of our universe.
You can say the same for the oppersite view smoothjk' see

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Does no one find it fishy that this God has become so mainstream and accepted without (thus far) a shred of proof? The main reason it was originally proposed was to avoid the existence of a theory---to explain away the apparent fine-tuning of our universe.
Although a matter of opinion I think the latter makes more sense. Its more a coincidence that the persuit of knoweledge makes us believe god less its not the purpose itself

anyway on topic this is very cool although somewhat useless.... there is probably a lot i odnt understand in this topic though
Edited by cdesewell - 8/10/11 at 6:16pm
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