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What does a time machine have anything to do with this?
One theory is that the "4th dimension" is time. A parallel universe spawns up everytime a different choice is made. A different evolution, a different decision. Any situation where there are multiple outcomes, a parallel universe spawn because both choices exist. If you think of this in the big picture, one choice spawns into near infinity alternate universes being made over time.

A time machine would be used to go back to when a choice is made, witness a different choice being made than our universe than go into the future and see the difference, than go back, make things happen like they should have and then go back into our time... I think that was the idea (think back to the future to some extent). I'm not sure if that's plausable because there are some who say you can't change the past, some believe that changing the past will just change our present and not make an alternative universe. The outcomes are nearly endless really as we don't know how we could handle something like changing history (if we could) and it's outcome.

Of course, this is a theory and thus why a time machine was mentioned. It's not nessessarily what I believe
Edited by Benladesh - 8/11/11 at 6:29am
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One theory is that the "4th dimension" is time. A parallel universe spawns up everytime a different choice is made. A different evolution, a different decision. Any situation where there are multiple outcomes, a parallel universe spawn because both choices exist. If you think of this in the big picture, one choice spawns into near infinity alternate universes being made over time.
In regards to time travel.

If each choice represents a unique parallel universe, the notion of past and present could only make sense from the perspective of the observer. Time may essentially be irrelevant and would just be an indication of which universe you were existing in at a specific moment (in time?). Time travel could simply be the ability to travel between situational universes. All possible situations would exist simultaneously in a sea of infinite linked universes.

Ultimately, time is probably not what we commonly perceive it to be (we are universally built to think of time as a linear progression of experience), although I don't necessarily believe that every situation is a universe necessarily. How do you break down the smallest unit of a situation? What is the quanta these universes would be based on?

Each quantum "decision" or probability is extremely small and would mean an unimaginable amount of parallel universes. Very interesting things to think about.
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You want proof of the existence of mathematical proofs, beyond multiple publications in a scientific journal? Don't be lazy and go find it yourself if you're so convinced they don't exist.

If you're asking for proof that the mathematic 'proofs' are correct, you entirely misread his statement and are barking up a non-existent tree. Math is math, it doesn't need to be 'accepted' or not, it simply works or it doesn't.



Kind of funny, considering some of the scientists supporting the theory view it as a way to bridge scientific and religious ideas.


ok .. so doest it work or not ???
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ok .. so doest it work or not ???
You can't verify it without experiments, which in this case, are extremely difficult to perform at this time. However this is what the whole article is about, observationally testing the hypothesis...
    
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ok .. so doest it work or not ???
You certainly couldn't call it a mathematical 'proof' if it didn't work, of course it does. You're missing the point.

The math works, which is why the 'theory' is accepted as a valid 'theory' in the first place (otherwise it would only be a hypothesis if there was no data to back it up). The 'observational experiment' is an attempt to verify wether or not the phenomena shown to be mathematically possible actually exists or not.

The math doesn't dictate something to be existing fact, it only demonstrates it to be possible within our currently known set of rules.
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I feel like in the past 14 days, OCN science/tech/space related articles have provided solutions for everything from world hunger to FTL travel.
    
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lf you people would read some of my post and use wiki...you'd understand. lol.

I find it funny how everything is flying over yallz head and you missing the point of the experiment.

1. If there was a big bang, its energy would leave behind traces in the form of Microwave radiation all over the universe...all the time.

1a. To provide evidence for this scientist (see my last post)

2. If there are more than one universe...and assumed to be budding and bumbing into each other...this bumbing and budding will generate very large amounts of energy at different point of the universe in the form of some kind of radiation...likely gamma radiation.

2a. To provide evidence scientist (see the article source)

Focus on the facts people..and you wont get confused.
I was referring to cdesewell's post, but if trying to correct me regarding something that doesn't pertain to you at all floats your boat... Speaking of things flying over peoples' heads...
    
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"As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality."

-Einstein


I'm with vulcan (sort of), we should invest those minds in finding solutions to our problems, to the suffering of humanity, rather than these grandiose theories which we'll never experience the truth/falsehood of anyways.
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lf you people would read some of my post and use wiki...you'd understand. lol.

I find it funny how everything is flying over yallz head and you missing the point of the experiment.

1. If there was a big bang, its energy would leave behind traces in the form of Microwave radiation all over the universe...all the time.

1a. To provide evidence for this scientist (see my last post)

2. If there are more than one universe...and assumed to be budding and bumbing into each other...this bumbing and budding will generate very large amounts of energy at different point of the universe in the form of some kind of radiation...likely gamma radiation.

2a. To provide evidence scientist (see the article source)

Focus on the facts people..and you wont get confused.
Zing" Zing!

yeah im pretty sure he was talking to me and I was being modest what you have stated is fairly ovbious stuff. I wouldent really call that an in depth understanding. Im saying there is probably a lot more i and others here dont know that also isnt mentioned in the OP. Jeez
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This seems very interesting, I used to work at the Perimeter Institute, I wonder if I can find any of the lectures on such things, if so I will see if I can post some here.
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