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post #11 of 22
ICH voltage dont do very much if anything to help your overclock.

more time spent stabilizing the uncore/IMC and memory would be a far better use of your time.
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No worries mate, im just recovering my backups , it has about 8 hours to go.

I'll take the board out and get some goods pics once i run though and find the right voltage. If i don't get it done tomorrow, i'll definitely get stuck into the next day, just unsure how the recovery will go since i lost my recovery software in the backup. New software is looking good at recovering and promising

Had to edit mate, my cheap multi meter is giving me a hard time. Brother in law will be up by Wednesday or Thursday with his Fluke. Snould be right then

Thanks a heap

@ wumpus
Thanks a heap for the info mate, i already did a little on ram, i'll tackle the other suggestions of yours
Edited by Tigerpaws - 8/6/11 at 8:57pm
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post #13 of 22
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Hi mate

Finally got spare time to tackle this, last time i could not reach a couple of the Mofsets.

I had it set in the bios ICH @ 1.4V
bigphoto2.jpg

I made sure mothing else in the bios was near 1.4v. The attached excel file has the voltages for the pic, The closet voltage there was 1.16v, any suggestions what to do? I tested 2 hidden ones from the pic and high lighted them above, those 2 i tested as well


I need this volt mod for this mobo, it is thirsty on ICH, my Rampage III Extreme does not need any voltage on ICH to hit 5 ghz on i7 950. Maybe the P6T series might be little like the Commandos? Cause the settings i used on the R3E are with tuned ram settings, and same with P6T i cant go anywhere with it, i cant drop ICH from 1.4v to 1.3

Sorry for the long delay, i just needed things sorted out and the free time to tackle this full on
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post #14 of 22
You need to measure power at the mosfets.. not the IC's.. then we trace mosfets to the controlling IC...
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ICH voltage dont do very much if anything to help your overclock.

more time spent stabilizing the uncore/IMC and memory would be a far better use of your time.
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post #16 of 22
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Originally Posted by reggiesanchez;14972149 
This is true listen to the man

Yes i know what your saying, but that motherboard volts on ich cant be dropped from its max volts at 1.4(BSOD if it gets dropped, so im on its limit and need more volts), how on earth am i going to go with a higher oc on ln2? Max i have hit is 4.9ghz(1.4v ICH), there is no way i can see possible to ever reach that with air cooling and ambient @ 20c on P6T WS Pro on a i7-950 without having 1.4v

Im no pro, but do have the record for air cooling on the i7-950 thats on the R3E, i know one thing and that cant be achieved by being a noob. On the R3E it does not need the volt increase on ICH at all to reach the below
http://hwbot.org/benchmark/cpu_frequency/rankings?hardwareTypeId=processor_1875#coolingType=2

Plus i would love to learn how to volt mod, i need to start somewhere, and hope maybe this might be the first volt mod if i can learn it. No disrespect to you and wumpus, i know wumpus is a pro at oc'ing, and maybe he could do it without the volts, but the mobo makes me beleive it cant be done ever. Only one way to find out is mod it, go hard as i can again for the forth time without ICH and then go hard with ICH
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Originally Posted by CL3P20;14967814 
You need to measure power at the mosfets.. not the IC's.. then we trace mosfets to the controlling IC...

Hi mate

I have never volt modded before and am only self taught to use the multimeter. I thought where i measured was the Mofsets, so i got that wrong and know they are now IC's what you have above. Are these the Mofsets in below pic? The 1R0(marked red square) or the one below that, i can only guess, i dont know where they are besides the ones right up the top of the mobo under the heatsinks(that is if they are Mofsets)

p6twsprolowres.jpg

Hi Res for reference, not real good of a picture but the best i have got so far, saving it then zooming in its really good
http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/8069/p6twspro.jpg
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post #17 of 22
'1R0' = inductors.. they supply the mosfets with power... so those are also acceptable places to measure voltage from.

* I have marked all of the mosfets I could see in red... inductors marked in yellow.

one side of the mosfet will be input voltage the other output.. your probably going to see +5v on the input and +1.4v on the output.

Attachment 229418
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mate you sure you are using slow mode on the QPI link?

It looks like you were using it on the Rampage, so that BCLK frequency was easy for the mobo.

I know for a FACT that the P6T motherboards do NOT have QPI slow mode anywhere in the BIOS. They top out at ~222Mhz BCLK or around 4Ghz on the QPI link. (what CPU-Z calls the "rated FSB"

When I did this result:

http://hwbot.org/submission/1055261_...930_5292.1_mhz

I was using a P6T deluxe motherboard with a P6X58D Premium BIOS so that i had the Slow mode option

if you could post a CPU-Z valid of your highest so far on that board it would help a lot!

However, if that is not the case, then I wish you luck with the volt mods, they are quite interesting and involved, and pretty fun when they work.
It would be a shame to see you maybe end up killing the board for a reason that was not necessary

hope I was able to help!
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post #19 of 22
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Originally Posted by wumpus;14980931 
mate you sure you are using slow mode on the QPI link?

It looks like you were using it on the Rampage, so that BCLK frequency was easy for the mobo.

I know for a FACT that the P6T motherboards do NOT have QPI slow mode anywhere in the BIOS. They top out at ~222Mhz BCLK or around 4Ghz on the QPI link. (what CPU-Z calls the "rated FSB"

When I did this result:

http://hwbot.org/submission/1055261_wumpus_cpu_frequency_core_i7_930_5292.1_mhz

I was using a P6T deluxe motherboard with a P6X58D Premium BIOS so that i had the Slow mode option wink.gif

if you could post a CPU-Z valid of your highest so far on that board it would help a lot!

However, if that is not the case, then I wish you luck with the volt mods, they are quite interesting and involved, and pretty fun when they work.
It would be a shame to see you maybe end up killing the board for a reason that was not necessary smile.gif

hope I was able to help!

Hi Mate

Thanks a million for the info.

I wont hit the same as the R3E as like you mentioned there is no QPI "slow mode". A question: Did you get a bios chip off the net for the "P6X58D Premium BIOS" or you flashed it with that "P6X58D Premium BIOS"? I got the latest on it 1205 atm and no slow mode frown.gif , but maybe your bios fix of the "P6X58D Premium BIOS" will get me there smile.gif

Not the best below, i have not saved them cause it has to beat the R3E, and we starting to hit summer with average day around 28-29c on "air cooling" now, old result below. The newer settings i have are with tighter timings(almost identical to the R3E but at BLCK 216 x23, and same ram timings as R3E) unlike below CPU-Z
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1936134

Not same chip P6X58D-E, but supports "slow mode" P6X58D-E,MAXIMUS II FORMULA, M4N98TD EVO

I'll still go ahead volt moding it mate, i love to learn how to do this and one day try solo at it if i ever get there. Until you mentioned the "P6X58D Premium BIOS" i was thinking the only way around this would be ln2 the NB and SB, and that would give me some leeway, but cant wait for some info on the "P6X58D Premium BIOS" info. Only using a couple of really old 20gb raid hard drives with the bearings on the way out on mobo and nothing special at all, only the mobo and cpu as being the real value risked. Not that i want to loose it either
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Originally Posted by CL3P20;14977355 
'1R0' = inductors.. they supply the mosfets with power... so those are also acceptable places to measure voltage from.

* I have marked all of the mosfets I could see in red... inductors marked in yellow.

one side of the mosfet will be input voltage the other output.. your probably going to see +5v on the input and +1.4v on the output.

Thanks mate.

I have my young fella with me for the next week, so im struggling to get time, but don't worry once i find the time i'll post back right away
Edited by Tigerpaws - 9/19/11 at 12:31am
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post #20 of 22
The board will not let you flash a mis-matched model's BIOS onto it directly.

I was forced to purchase a P6X58D Premium BIOS chip from Asus for $5 + $15 shipping (!!!!)

I am 90% sure the P6X58D Premium BIOS would work on your board, it has same VRM's all around and same basic design & layout.

the ONLY thing that would be a draw back would be that any specialized controllers or chips on the WS PRO that are NOT on the P6X58D will not be detected by the BIOS & therefore not configurable.

For example, on my P6T deluxe, I could not turn off the SAS controller, so every time it booted I had to wait for that controller to boot.

PCI-E, SATA, etc will all be fine as the P6X58D does have those features.

thread I made on the subject:

http://www.overclock.net/intel-bios/...m-success.html


EDIT: test for maximum BCLK with CPU at like 15x multiplier. Should let us know whether the BCLK is an issue or not.
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