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And it needs to be less open still. They have got to get rid of those manufacturer custom UIs before I'd even consider owning another Android device.
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post #32 of 47
I've been saying this for years.

Android isn't an open source platform, it never was.

This is why it makes me rage when people say that iOS is locked down, this may be true, but Android isn't exactly one to preach about open source either. It just hides behind that name with nothing to back up its claim.
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Yea, there is a lot of irony behind the "walled garden" criticism of Apple's operating systems, since that's what people apparently want Android to be like. I guess as long as it's not Apple's garden it's ok.
    
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Whats that you say ?? a commercial mainstream oporating system that isnt open source ?? Never before have I heard of this !!
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Originally Posted by soldierblue View Post
And it needs to be less open still. They have got to get rid of those manufacturer custom UIs before I'd even consider owning another Android device.
HTC Sense is pretty good, but I hate MotoBlur
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post #36 of 47
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Originally Posted by IcedEarth View Post
I've been saying this for years.

Android isn't an open source platform, it never was.

This is why it makes me rage when people say that iOS is locked down, this may be true, but Android isn't exactly one to preach about open source either. It just hides behind that name with nothing to back up its claim.
I was going to ask a question about this. How much do they advertise themselves as "open source?" Because if they use it as a marketing tool, then this is a big deal as they're obviously not very open source. If they don't use it much, then yeah - no biggie as that's what every phone OS is.

Personally I never really paid attention to that aspect of the platform, so I have no idea how much they try to tout themselves as being "open source."
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Linux users are a minority.
Try to get a frat/brat to understand Linux.
They locked the phone so that they wouldn't have 10000% more broken phones due to people doing harm to the OS and thus making the phone unusable.
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post #38 of 47
Quote:
Originally Posted by IcedEarth View Post
I've been saying this for years.

Android isn't an open source platform, it never was.

This is why it makes me rage when people say that iOS is locked down, this may be true, but Android isn't exactly one to preach about open source either. It just hides behind that name with nothing to back up its claim.
Yup.

Linus and the LKML pulled the Android code from the mainline kernel because Google refuses to share any and all driver code. Android is not open source and never was.
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post #39 of 47
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Given that my primary OS is Windows, I can't really say I'm a huge proponent of open source operating system but I would like so see Android x86 Project keep pace with the official release. I think Android x86 could really work as an alternative OS on older laptops.
Thing is... that there are already countless OS's which will run on older laptops.

I agree with whoever said that android needs a certain amount of locks in order to survive.
Don't really see a problem.
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Originally Posted by nathris View Post
Cookie cutter compared to what exactly? Android tablets are more diverse than anything else on the market. You have different button layouts, different screen technologies, different form factors, different hardware, some with USB ports or pen digitizers or full sized SD card slots.



The manufacturers care. They think that rather than a clean, fast, stable operating system that users want a bloated launcher that can't even run on the hardware it was designed for, just so they can say "our phone is better than your phone because it has HTC Sense©™®***"

Seriously though, Android could fix a ton of problems by forcing all manufacturers and carriers to abide by this one simple rule:

No modifying/replacing core OS features.

If HTC wants to add Sense to their phones, they can't replace existing Android functionality with their own, they have to add to the existing software. Every phone should be able to revert back stock Android with at most a restart. That way App developers won't have to deal with device-specific implementations of the OS, since every device will be the same underneath. They can still replace core features like the Dialer and notification bar with their own versions, but they have to let the user switch back to Google's versions if they want to.


*** Sense is a registered trademark of HTC Corporation. All Rights reserved.

But this would make them liable for defects, etc. Look @ the apple store... there is a class action lawsuit against apple because they have so much control. Im not arguing you have a bad point, I happen to agree. However, I think that Google for phones is the same as Windows for PCs -- 1 OS for a lot of different hardware setups.... sans the ability to do a clean install.


God I wish they implemented this... but I dont think they would make as much money off the carriers/device manufacturers, which may be their driving motivation.
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