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To be fair, the server parts are clocked lower than the desktop parts, so it remains to be seen how exactly the desktop Zambezi parts will perform.

For reference, the highest-end server part will be the Opteron 6276: 16-core, 2.3GHz, 2.8GHz Turbo, 16MB L2, 16MB L3 cache

From the Xbitlabs article:

Quote:
Insufficient clock-speeds of Bulldozer are probably the reason why AMD now claims that the 16-core offering will be 35% faster than 12-core solution (which is natural, given 33% higher core count) and not 50%, as it initially expected. It is also noteworthy that Bulldozer's per-core performance is not projected to be much higher compared to existing microprocessors.

AMD's chief now says we can expect up to a 35% performance increase from Bulldozer, down from the originally predicted 50%. Previously, John Fruehe claimed 50% performance from 33% higher core count.
Quote:
From a performance standpoint, if you compare our 16-core Interlagos to our current 12-core AMD Opteron 6100-series processors (code named “Magny Cours”) we estimate that customers will see up to 50% more performance from 33% more cores. This means we expect the per core performance to go in the right direction - up," explained John Fruehe, the director of product marketing for server/workstation products at AMD.

Now it looks like they're claiming up to 35% performance gain from 33% increase in core count. If true, this means that the new architecture brought no significant IPC improvements.

Quote:
"We expect to begin shipping our first server platform featuring the Bulldozer this quarter. The Interlagos platform is our first server offering optimized for today's cloud datacenters. The [Bulldozer] [micro]-architecture excels at compute-intensive and HPC workloads, where it will deliver up to 35% performance improvements compared to our current offerings. Customer excitement for Interlagos is high: all of our major customers are expected to introduce servers based on the new platform this year. We are committed to the server market and are focused on returning the business to a growth trajectory," said Thomas Seifert, interim chief executive officer of AMD, during a recent conference call.

Link to article:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...Announced.html
Edited by 996gt2 - 8/5/11 at 8:41am
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Feeling a little better about trading my CHIV and 1055t
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Has been said 300 times before.
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All that info is regarding server processors, not desktop/enthusiast.

And you haven't linked a source.
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Server =/= Desktop. It probably will be more of an increase for desktops.
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Server =/= Desktop. It probably will be more of an increase for desktops.
While the desktop Zambezi parts will obviously benefit from the higher clock speeds, the underlying microarchitecture is the same between the desktop and server parts.
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While the desktop Zambezi parts will obviously benefit from the higher clock speeds, the underlying microarchitecture is the same between the desktop and server parts.
Thank you for that, AMD Engineer.
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If the supposed 35% increase is true and will be reflected in the desktop parts.... AMD has greatly disappointed me. It still should beat the 2600k in rendering and similar multi-threaded tasks, though.

I'll still wait for the actual release.
Edited by Usario - 8/4/11 at 4:22pm
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If the supposed 35% increase is true and will be reflected in the desktop parts.... AMD has greatly disappointed me.

I'll still wait for the actual release, though.
I agree; we can make some generalizations based on the fact that the architectures are the same, but the much higher clocks of Zambezi throws a curve-ball into the equation.

I guess we'll see when the real benchmarks come out
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I agree; we can make some generalizations based on the fact that the architectures are the same, but the much higher clocks of Zambezi throws a curve-ball into the equation.

I guess we'll see when the real benchmarks come out
The server BDs are supposedly clocked similarly to the previous generation, so that means no improvement in IPC.

So fail in programs that only use ≤4 threads.

I hope that the 35% improvement was regarding something in particular, like IPC (in which case it's still not that great but good nonetheless).
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