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Originally Posted by mothergoose729;14490406 
The more I read about bulldozer the less and less I expect. Its starting to get kind of sad at this point. No one except the insides in AMD know how these chips are going to perform... but, AMD hopefuls, I would expect the worst and hope for the best at this point. I want AMD to succeed, but I think bulldozer is going to be a major let down.

Well said
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post #122 of 139
this just really pisses me off.

all the hype. i mean, im proud of AMD for actually
taking a leap back into the performance side of the market

i just hate being lied to.

i've been a AMD user for years. so im faithful
but jesus. idk.. anyone else feel me?

more cores isnt the best way to make more performance sometimes.

then again.. lol
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since not too much is known alot is unknown
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Originally Posted by Fr0sty;14493706 
since not too much is known alot is unknown


this is very wise sir lol
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Originally Posted by Fr0sty;14493706 
since not too much is known alot is unknown
WHAT? LOL

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This is a perfect answer to any BD question ATM...
Edited by cayennemist - 8/7/11 at 12:49am
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Originally Posted by catharsis;14467575 
I find it highly suspect that this article is saying almost no increase in IPC from a BRAND NEW architecture.
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Originally Posted by Usario;14473708 
So are you saying Xbit fabricated a quote supposedly from AMD's interim CEO?
Seifert is a financial guy, i dont think he has huge tech. knowledge, (or is interested in architectures).
Quote:
Originally Posted by 996gt2;14477729 
The predicted increase in FP performance seems overly optimistic, and I'm skeptical of its accuracy. Istanbul and Magny-Cours are built on very similar architectures, yet AMD claims > 2x increase in FP performance going from 6 core Istanbul to 12 core Magny Cours. If that's the case, then they would be able to claim a similarly large increase in FP performance going from 12 core Magny Cours to 16 core Bulldozer even if the architecture was unchanged.

See the problem here?
It has AVX and FMA4...
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since not too much is known alot is unknown

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Originally Posted by kweechy;14478893 
I fully agree, and the prices on the Opteron chips right now is absurd for their performance as well.

Like I said though, we've got to really hope for Bulldozer to be a winner.

Looking at reports like this one from Tom's a couple months back seem to back up similar math to what I had done in my previous post...http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Bulldozer-Interlagos-Phoronix-Test-Suite-Benchmark-16-core,12445.html

To save you from digging and reading it:
32 Interlagos cores @ 1.8ghz = C-score array of 25 seconds
4 i5 2500k cores @ 3.3ghz = C-score array of 61 seconds

Doubling the clock speed of Interlagos to 3.6ghz puts it around 12.5 seconds. Dropping the core count to 8 from 32 puts it at around 50 seconds.

In essence, 8 BD cores @ 3.6ghz are 22% faster than 4 Sandy Bridge cores @ 3.3ghz...and if you really want to distill the equation further by normalizing the clock speeds:

1 BD core = 0.6 SB cores (or 1.2 SB 'threads')

I think amd's set back on the server market is merely just the clock speeds. If they released a "non power saving mode" chip where it's clock speeds were well into the 3 ghz range (which I'm sure they could pull off), things would be much different.

AMD has been focusing so heavily on power saving lately. It isn't going to help them significantly. If they are already putting up with what Intel offers for wattage loads, they might as well equal them.
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Waiting for socket C32 BD. Mega-folder needs to be built!!!
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