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But they won't get rid of their old stock...
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I'm so mad at AMD for leaving us in the dark like this, it's torturing.
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Yeah, I don't think it's doing customer relations any favours. I'd rather they just put their hands up and say "look, the situation is.. blah, blah" not try and spin the whole thing. People denigrate Intel for their dishonest practices, but at least they're straight up with product releases. I'm kind of 60/40 in favour of going Intel next upgrade (performance being equal) just because at least you know where you stand with them.
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Yeah, I don't think it's doing customer relations any favours. I'd rather they just put their hands up and say "look, the situation is.. blah, blah" not try and spin the whole thing. People denigrate Intel for their dishonest practices, but at least they're straight up with product releases. I'm kind of 60/40 in favour of going Intel next upgrade (performance being equal) just because at least you know where you stand with them.
I'm not quite in favor of going with Intel...yet.

But if FX keeps getting delayed and delayed and the next Intel comes out or is about to come out when I'm ready to buy, I may well go ahead and give up on getting a FX8150.
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That's what i'm saying. I'm not bothered about upgrading this year, but Ivy Bridge is looking tempting. obviously I know i'm just one person, and AMD couldn't care less if I go to Intel, but if everyone did it, that's a different story. I don't want to go to the dark side, but AMD have to come with something very impressive to retain my custom.
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That's what i'm saying. I'm not bothered about upgrading this year, but Ivy Bridge is looking tempting. obviously I know i'm just one person, and AMD couldn't care less if I go to Intel, but if everyone did it, that's a different story. I don't want to go to the dark side, but AMD have to come with something very impressive to retain my custom.
Weeellllllllll...I wouldn't say AMD couldn't care less.

If you are tempted to go with Intel because of delays, you're not alone. And, probably others with less patience already have gone SB since AMD missed the initial June deadline.

I'm sure AMD is aware that missing deadlines means lost revenue, and want to make people happy...such as yourself.

And, I don't call Intel the "dark side"...I just don't see "return on investment" in paying for their top-of-the-line product. A CPU for $1000? No thanks. I got my 875k for around $350 including the gas to go get it in Atlanta. $300 for a FX8150 will be awesome, if that's the price.

And I agree with you about performance. If FX doesn't live up to my expectations, Intel will be looked at for alternatives.
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xbit isnt a good source when it comes tu news and rumors






huh???


those 35% and 50% numbers are rubbish throwed around like its fact ... but its not ...








how can you know ipc didnt increase without real benchmarks???





and those numbers werent proved ... so what's your point??










the 50% more throughput is in regards to the memory controller

if they did the same changes in the zambezi memory controller it will have the same effect ...





this article is full of fail with nothing more then speculation to attract readers ...


they can't even put some of the confirmed numbers together correctly .. so take the rest as complete fud







false ... those 50% more performance = throughput numbers ... wich all have to do with the memory controller ... nothing else ... dont need to read the rest of your post




did you take the time to read the article and come up with an half decent explaination of why they would be like omg amd is screwed in every paragraph they made???


its easy to tell they wanted sensationalism


we can only wait for the real numbers to make everything a black & white affair ... until then lots of speculation and mis interpreted information will flow to feed the bad press/rag journals/tech journals




how can you know that for a fact???




finally someone who gets it





he did say that its about throughput ... not total performance .. otherwise we'd allready know how it performs on a core by core case .




was it a new design or just an improved design???
So are you saying Xbit fabricated a quote supposedly from AMD's interim CEO?
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did you take the time to read the article and come up with an half decent explaination of why they would be like omg amd is screwed in every paragraph they made???

its easy to tell they wanted sensationalism
I do agree that the tone of Xbit's article was a bit strong, but nonetheless they backed up their claims with facts...you know, quotes directly from AMD's interim CEO. If anything, AMD's CEO would put a positive spin on anything he says about an upcoming product, so we can take his words to be an optimistic prediction of Bulldozer's performance.
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You are bringing up an Intel Architecture to say an AMD architecture is going to be slower



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I'm pretty sure he's bringing up an example of how a new architecture might not necessarily bring a big improvement over an old architecture. That the example was about Intel has ****all to do with the point.
Thank you.

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Don't look at Netburst

Look at IBM z196

Bulldozer is more IBM z196 than Netburst
Hooooray for taking things out of context.

I SAID: New doesn't always mean faster.

This is obviously true, and I provided an example. THE END.

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was it a new design or just an improved design???
Netburst was a very new design. And it was slower than P3, clock-for-clock.
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