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The plot thickens. The first IVY iteration will be a quad core so it will challenge AMD offerings with more cores .... I wonder
 
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xbit isnt a good source when it comes tu news and rumors


huh???

those 35% and 50% numbers are rubbish throwed around like its fact ... but its not ...



how can you know ipc didnt increase without real benchmarks???

and those numbers werent proved ... so what's your point??

the 50% more throughput is in regards to the memory controller

if they did the same changes in the zambezi memory controller it will have the same effect ...

this article is full of fail with nothing more then speculation to attract readers ...

they can't even put some of the confirmed numbers together correctly .. so take the rest as complete fud

false ... those 50% more performance = throughput numbers ... wich all have to do with the memory controller ... nothing else ... dont need to read the rest of your post

did you take the time to read the article and come up with an half decent explaination of why they would be like omg amd is screwed in every paragraph they made???

its easy to tell they wanted sensationalism


we can only wait for the real numbers to make everything a black & white affair ... until then lots of speculation and mis interpreted information will flow to feed the bad press/rag journals/tech journals

how can you know that for a fact???

finally someone who gets it

he did say that its about throughput ... not total performance .. otherwise we'd allready know how it performs on a core by core case .

was it a new design or just an improved design???

Nice summary, I was NOT looking forward to going through 10 pages of Intel fanboys/AMD haters.

I'd like to point out that Llano has a 6% performance increase in IPC over the Phenom II architecture, and it's a VERY slightly tweaked Phenom II core, with No L2. Seeing how monstrous the BD architecture is, and assuming the transistor count is competitive, and one module can "work" on one thread with a decent amount of efficiency.. I think BD will be a huge success.

So I should ask- can a single module(2 cores) "work" at 100% on a single-threaded application? I'm kind of confused on how the arch. works, like could it act like a quad-core for gaming, and like an 8-core for video encoding?
 
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I hope you didn't waste the time do draw that yourself...
HP did that drawing not me

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Yeah, I don't think it's doing customer relations any favours. I'd rather they just put their hands up and say "look, the situation is.. blah, blah" not try and spin the whole thing. People denigrate Intel for their dishonest practices, but at least they're straight up with product releases. I'm kind of 60/40 in favour of going Intel next upgrade (performance being equal) just because at least you know where you stand with them.
Speaking of which, have we heard a definitive date from Intel on Sandy Bride-E yet? That is my back-up plan if AMD releases Faildozer (i.e. less than Nehalam IPC) rather than Bulldozer. Unfortunately, this article is forcing me to look at my back-up plan seriously.

I certainly don't know Intel, but I thought usually have a good idea of the product launch date well in advance.
Edited by JCPUser - 8/5/11 at 11:25am
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Speaking of which, have we heard a definitive date from Intel on Sandy Bride-E yet? That is my back-up plan if AMD releases Faildozer (i.e. less than Nehalam IPC) rather than Bulldozer. Unfortunately, this article is forcing me to look at my back-up plan seriously.

I certainly don't know Intel, but I thought usually have a good idea of the product launch date well in advance.
SB-E is scheduled for Q4.

http://hw-lab.com/lots-of-details-on...rocessors.html

My current rig will be upgraded to SB-E 3930K, my 2nd rig will most likely end up with a 2600K in it, if Bulldozer fails to deliver the goods.
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It is also noteworthy that Bulldozer's per-core performance is not projected to be much higher compared to existing microprocessors

If they are referring to current Phenom II processors, /intel for my next build. This is really starting to make me sad, I was hoping for competition with intel so badly...
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Speaking of which, have we heard a definitive date from Intel on Sandy Bride-E yet? That is my back-up plan if AMD releases Faildozer (i.e. less than Nehalam IPC) rather than Bulldozer. Unfortunately, this article is forcing me to look at my back-up plan seriously.

I certainly don't know Intel, but I thought usually have a good idea of the product launch date well in advance.
Intel has been pretty good about launching on time and getting solid benchmarks out well before release. SB benchmarks were originally published by big review sites in Aug 2010, 4 months before release.

SB-E is scheduled for Q4 of this year, so you should expect to see reliable benchmarks in the next month or two.
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Enjoy a hand drawn HP/AMD expectation from 2010
Thank you for posting this. It gives me faith... I was starting to wonder how I was going to be able to afford a Core i7 3930k.
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This doesn't mean much to me really since it's talking about servers,I'm buying desktop parts.
Besides I think we should wait until we see real benchmarks from the FX.
 
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This doesn't mean much to me really since it's talking about servers,I'm buying desktop parts.
Besides I think we should wait until we see real benchmarks from the FX.

The server chips are the same Bulldozer core as the desktop ones, exactly the same. If Interlagos IPC sucks (I'm not saying it does/will) then desktop BD will suck.
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