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lol...you got me...hacky hacky

But it just shows how pointless WEI is...I could have it at 99.9 if I liked
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I still would expect my RAM to do better on the WEI. I can understand that my 980X apparently isn't good enough to reach a 7.9 (which is ridiculous, quite honestly), but that should be the ONLY thing at 7.8. Apparently just changing to AHCI boosts you up half a point for the SSD, though. Pretty cool stuff. Perhaps there's a way to get my CPU to 7.9 without hacking the program?
There is, you just need to do a LN2 run at 6 GHz or better to get a WEI 7.9 score. Otherwise, no one gets a 7.9 with any cpu.

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If anyone has any suggestions about getting the RAM up to 7.9, let me know. I have a tendency to go for higher frequency and timings rather than lower, does anyone have a performance comparison?
As I mentioned earlier, you need bandwidth to exceed 20k Mb/s to score a 7.9 on your ram in winsat. Truthfully, the 12GB's that you have is going to hurt your overclock. I'm scoring a 7.9 with only 4GB of some of the most ridiculous oc'ing ram ever made. This score was with the settings in the attached pic.

What you want in any system, is 1st: The tightest timings your ram can achieve (eg: lowest 7-7-7-21 @ 1866 Mhz will score higher than 2103 @ 9-11-9-24). Every nanosecond counts on a large scale when speaking of bandwidth. Frequency is important, but it takes a back seat to timings in a big way. Drop your frequency and tighten your timings to improve the score.

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Edited by Lucky 13 SpeedShop - 8/5/11 at 11:19am
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There is, you just need to do a LN2 run at 6 GHz or better to get a WEI 7.9 score. Otherwise, no one gets a 7.9 with any cpu.



As I mentioned earlier, you need bandwidth to exceed 20k Mb/s to score a 7.9 on your ram in winsat. Truthfully, the 12GB's that you have is going to hurt your overclock. I'm scoring a 7.9 with only 4GB of some of the most ridiculous oc'ing ram ever made. This score was with the settings in the attached pic.

What you want in any system, is 1st: The tightest timings your ram can achieve (eg: lowest 7-7-7-21 @ 1866 Mhz will score higher than 2103 @ 9-11-9-24). Every nanosecond counts on a large scale when speaking of bandwidth. Frequency is important, but it takes a back seat to timings in a big way. Drop your frequency and tighten your timings to improve the score.

Attachment 223134
Is there anything I can do without replacing my hardware to get my RAM up there?

I believe stock specs on the RAM is 9-10-9-27 and I had it overclocked to 2105 at 9-11-9-27.

Should I attempt to underclock to 1866 at 8-9-8-24? Would this give me enough juice to get that 7.9? Obviously overclocking is trial and error, but what kind of timings/frequency do you think I can/should achieve/go for for the most performance?
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Is there anything I can do without replacing my hardware to get my RAM up there?

I believe stock specs on the RAM is 9-10-9-27 and I had it overclocked to 2105 at 9-11-9-27.

Should I attempt to underclock to 1866 at 8-9-8-24? Would this give me enough juice to get that 7.9? Obviously overclocking is trial and error, but what kind of timings/frequency do you think I can/should achieve/go for for the most performance?
You should be able to achieve the mark with the equipment you have (aside from the cpu rating, as I mentioned prior to). No need to start replacing parts.

Honestly, it depends on your ram and your IMC. First, lets start w/ the model number of your Dom GT's, which will tell us their factory ratings on frequency & timings.

Just from your timings alone, I can nearly guarantee they are PSC based sticks. Not that they are bad modules, but the Elpida Hyper based sticks are the one that everyone drools over...and rightly so. Though the PSC's are very desirable for the Sandybridge crowd where they cannot put the voltage to them that Hypers love...the X58's can handle 1.7V & up, easily.
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Originally Posted by Lucky 13 SpeedShop View Post
You should be able to achieve the mark with the equipment you have (aside from the cpu rating, as I mentioned prior to). No need to start replacing parts.

Honestly, it depends on your ram and your IMC. First, lets start w/ the model number of your Dom GT's, which will tell us their factory ratings on frequency & timings.

Just from your timings alone, I can nearly guarantee they are PSC based sticks. Not that they are bad modules, but the Elpida Hyper based sticks are the one that everyone drools over...and rightly so. Though the PSC's are very desirable for the Sandybridge crowd where they cannot put the voltage to them that Hypers love...the X58's can handle 1.7V & up, easily.
Thanks for the help: http://www.circuitcity.com/applicati...221&CatId=4093

I got a R3E motherboard. Is the X58 better?
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Thanks for the help: http://www.circuitcity.com/applicati...221&CatId=4093

I got a R3E motherboard. Is the X58 better?
R3E is a model using the Intel X58 chipset.
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R3E is a model using the Intel X58 chipset.
Stop laughing at me.

Where can one find these Elpida Hyper sticks?
Edited by xyeLz - 8/5/11 at 12:42pm
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Stop laughing at me.

Where can one find these Elpida Hyper sticks?
No ones laughing at you No one know everything, and all of us are always learning

The hyper sticks you can only find used. They have been EOL (end of life) for about 2 years. Unfortunately, nothing that has been released since, can better their performance. Maybe when PSC gets to around 3000 Mhz, that may change finally. But whose to say?

Back to business, go ahead and try the settings I suggested earlier with a QPI of 1.7 to begin with. If it's unstable, bump up the QPI by .1-.2V and try it again. Do not exceed 1.75V though, as I'm unsure as to what the maximum continuous voltage rating is for those modules. I'll take a look & see what I can find. Info on those specific sticks is rather hard to come by.

Run 20 passes of IBT (Intel Burn Test) or Linx on high, and if it passes...20 more on very high settings to check for initial stability.
Edited by Lucky 13 SpeedShop - 8/5/11 at 12:59pm
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No ones laughing at you No one know everything, and all of us are always learning

The hyper sticks you can only find used. They have been EOL (end of life) for about 2 years. Unfortunately, nothing that has been released since, can better their performance. Maybe when PSC gets to around 3000 Mhz, that may change finally. But whose to say?

Back to business, go ahead and try the settings I suggested earlier with a QPI of 1.7 to begin with. If it's unstable, bump up the QPI by .1-.2V and try it again. Do not exceed 1.75V though, as I'm unsure as to what the maximum continuous voltage rating is for those modules. I'll take a look & see what I can find. Info on those specific sticks is rather hard to come by.

Run 20 passes of IBT (Intel Burn Test) or Linx on high, and if it passes...20 more on very high settings to check for initial stability.
I'm sorry but I didn't see what you told me to do before.

All I have now is QPI at 1.7v
What do I do with RAM timings/frequency? Time it down to see what I can pull off?
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The results are in!

First two pictures are of C and D drive respectively using SATA 6GB/s:





Following two pictures are SATA 3GB/s with IRST (if I set everything up correctly):





Sadly, the Marvell is the clear victor. I was really excited when I watched the first two bars pop-up but it just couldn't keep up with the read times at all. I mean consistency was very nice with the 3GB/s Writes but that's a pretty big price to pay for the difference in Reads.

Time to uninstall IRST?

This is just a shot in the dark here, but could I buy an Intel PCIe SATA controller that supports SATA III and run IRST with that instead of using the motherboards integrated?
Edited by xyeLz - 8/5/11 at 4:22pm
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