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on another note, I do use the WEI quite often, but not the standard numbers that the normal home user uses. if you want to know exactly why everything is happening and how run WEI though the command line. this is the only real way to use it IMO.

you must open up command prompt as administrator. the easiest way to learn how to use it is to type in "winsat /?"

I usually use:
"winsat cpuformal"
"winsat memformal"
"winsat diskformal
"winsat graphicsformal"

If you don't put in formal you have to specify which test you wish to run (I find this tedious and just run them all at once with formal)

but if you were to do that you would use syntax like:

"winsat cpu -compression"

also if you type in

"winsat features" it tells you some basic information it uses above all the test results

EDIT: oh I forgot to mension the verbose output option just put a "-v" after the command if you like numbers n stuff

if one of these settings is under a predetermined amount or the answer is no, it will be stuck the screen resolution does make a difference for what your graphics card will score.

my Diskformal scores as follows with my vertex 3 max iops:
Disk Sequential 64.0 Read 384.96 MB/s 7.9
Disk Random 16.0 Read 188.58 MB/s 7.7
Responsiveness: Average IO Rate 0.59 ms/IO 7.9
Responsiveness: Grouped IOs 8.42 units 7.4
Responsiveness: Long IOs 1.60 units 7.9
Responsiveness: Overall 13.44 units 7.9
Responsiveness: PenaltyFactor 0.0
Total Run Time 00:00:58.52

that penalty factor one is fun when you are on a magnetic disk

>>>On a completely separate note, WEI was designed for windows vista to tell you how well your computer could run windows vista, nothing more nothing less. everyone complained, so Microsoft changed how it worked so its in between a real benchmark and a bench to tell you how your computer can run windows. Its pretty much useless now.

hopefully this was helpful and I didn't rant too much
Edited by bobaffett - 8/4/11 at 8:39pm
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on another note, I do use the WEI quite often, but not the standard numbers that the normal home user uses. if you want to know exactly why everything is happening and how run WEI though the command line. this is the only real way to use it IMO.

you must open up command prompt as administrator. the easiest way to learn how to use it is to type in "winsat /?"

I usually use:
"winsat cpuformal"
"winsat memformal"
"winsat diskformal
"winsat graphicsformal"

If you don't put in formal you have to specify which test you wish to run (I find this tedious and just run them all at once with formal)

but if you were to do that you would use syntax like:

"winsat cpu -compression"

also if you type in

"winsat features" it tells you some basic information it uses above all the test results

if one of these settings is under a predetermined amount or the answer is no, it will be stuck the screen resolution does make a difference for what your graphics card will score.



>>>On a completely separate note, WEI was designed for windows vista to tell you how well your computer could run windows vista, nothing more nothing less. everyone complained, so Microsoft changed how it worked so its in between a real benchmark and a bench to tell you how your computer can run windows. Its pretty much useless now.

hopefully this was helpful and I didn't rant too much
According to the section that says "What do these numbers mean?", the intention was to make it easier for normal consumers to pick software. Instead of looking through a confusing list of system requirements, all they would have to do is check its minimum WEI requirement:

Excerpt:

"You can use the base score to buy programs and other software that are matched to your computer's base score. For example, if your computer has a base score of 3.3, then you can buy any software designed for this version of Windows that requires a computer with a base score of 3 or lower."

I haven't purchased software or shopped around for any in a long time, so I don't know if this has become a reality or not. However, if it has, then I will be surprised.
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According to the section that says "What do these numbers mean?", the intention was to make it easier for normal consumers to pick software. Instead of looking through a confusing list of system requirements, all they would have to do is check its minimum WEI requirement:

Excerpt:

"You can use the base score to buy programs and other software that are matched to your computer's base score. For example, if your computer has a base score of 3.3, then you can buy any software designed for this version of Windows that requires a computer with a base score of 3 or lower."

I haven't purchased software or shopped around for any in a long time, so I don't know if this has become a reality or not. However, if it has, then I will be surprised.
exactly! but everyone moaned and complained =( now its just another failed windows toy
also no one ever gives into Microsoft plans till like 10 years after they've started like the signed driver database lol. at least windows 7 does a good job with that.


I't hasn't been added to anything other than Games for windows, which is a fail because most people don't know whats required until the game is already installed

but here I am ranting again, back on topic I was just trying to relay info to help him determine what was causing his ssd to score how it did.
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exactly! but everyone moaned and complained =( now its just another failed windows toy
also no one ever gives into Microsoft plans till like 10 years after they've started like the signed driver database lol. at least windows 7 does a good job with that.


I't hasn't been added to anything other than Games for windows, which is a fail because most people don't know whats required until the game is already installed

but here I am ranting again, back on topic I was just trying to relay info to help him determine what was causing his ssd to score how it did.
He had it in IDE mode, so I'm helping him get it in AHCI and then he will also install Intel's Rapid Storage Technology.
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Okay, I think I'm running AHCI now. Only one of my controllers says AHCI even though I have 2 drives. Is this correct or should there be 2 AHCI controllers?
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Okay, I think I'm running AHCI now. Only one of my controllers says AHCI even though I have 2 drives. Is this correct or should there be 2 AHCI controllers?
If you mean that you have basically the same thing that I have, then yeah it's normal:

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Also make sure you install the latest Intel Chipset inf drivers for your motherboard. I remember helping someone about this SSD issue a few weeks ago, and this helped their WEI score in addition to Intel RST driver.
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Here's mine, idk why there are so many. My C300s are also plugged into the Marvell's, which for some reason don't have drivers? I'm lost.


Edited by xyeLz - 8/4/11 at 9:14pm
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Because you didn't install Intel's Rapid Storage Technology like I recommended.

So again:

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Deta...&DwnldID=19607

Install it and reboot.
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Haha I know I'm taking it one step at a time. I'm a dope.

But that looks okay? Enabling AHCI enables it for every hard drive on the controller or in the entire system? I just wanna make sure I'm getting it right while also understanding why.

EDIT:

Like why are there so many devices under IDE? You only have one.

And why are my two "Other devices" listed as, well, not installed? But my C300s are plugged into the Marvell SATA?
Edited by xyeLz - 8/4/11 at 9:23pm
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