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My current set up:

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227503
Processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103706
Graphics Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150462
Power Supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341016
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138163

So, my plan was to upgrade my PC sometime in october because that is when BF3 and SWTOR are going to be released. However, to cut a long story short, a series of events has caused me to want to up my time schedule.

In particular I'm looking at getting a graphics card, specifically this:


The ratings on there (and newegg) do concern me a little. Are they justified? I like XFX because of the lifetime warranty.

I want to upgrade to play a new level of games very smoothly...so first question or two.

1) Do I NEED to upgrade anything other than the graphics card? I am happy to just buy the graphics card, install it, and go. The thing is, my processor isn't top of the line. So I am wondering if I should upgrade that as well.

2) Will my PSU hold up a more powerful card along with the rest of the system?

Basically, I'm wary that shoving an amazing card into an average rig isn't going to work. However, if it will work and games (BF3 specifically) will work well on it, then I couldn't be happier.
Thanks for your time
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Sounds like you are in good position to wait for BD, so wait on the CPU/Mobo & maybe GPU upgrade now?

That PSU can power a single 6950, I would get a 2GB model for sure though. Safe than sorry, especially with BF3 on the horizon.

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Sounds like you are in good position to wait for BD, so wait on the CPU/Mobo & maybe GPU upgrade now?

That PSU can power a single 6950, I would get a 2GB model for sure though. Safe than sorry, especially with BF3 on the horizon.

Sapphire 6950 2GB
I'm not sure what BD is

But, thanks for the advice. I might shop around a bit and see if there are any other cards out there. But it's reassuring to know I can put a more powerful card into my system and it'll do ok.
post #4 of 9
Bulldozer, AMD's next line of CPU.

Been the talk of these here forums for a very very long time. We all wait, very impatiently.

The other point being even if you don't get a BD you can perhaps get an x4 or x6 AMD around that time for less than they are now.

Your gaming will be significantly improved even on the Athlon, You will be bottlenecking the 6950 a little bit, especially at vantage benchmarks but temporarily untill you get a new mobo and cpu. & when you do, even more improvement.
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Yes, for sure wait until Bulldozer (BD) comes out, it should be an interesting release, as there has never been a processor with a similar architecture out there. Bulldozer was first announced like 3-4 years ago... so yea, we're excited. Its supposed to be released in September.

The graphics card is for sure the better upgrade here. And for that Graphics card, you don't need a new PSU, so you should be good to go there. And finally, I've only had one XFX GPU, but it served me well until I let go of it, and their warranty is pretty good.

Good luck with whatever you do.
post #6 of 9
I'd also suggest a new GPU as well. I really think your CPU is going to hold back a 6950 though, but you could always carry that new GPU over to a new build later.

If you can do it, also look into a new PSU. That OCZ unit probably will cut it, but it'll be close, as its not that great of a unit. The Antec HCG 620 is on sale for $50 on newegg, and its a SOLID PSU, and would handle your machine with crossfired 6950's with ease.

Also, I'd avoid XFX personally. Tons and TONS of bad RMA experiences out there (myself included), and their non reference designs are the worst out there.
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Great point... sorry, I'm still getting back into things again Pioneer (last 2 years = crazy for me).

And to clarify, yes, your current CPU will bottleneck the new GPU, but you will still have better FPS than you did before, and then like Pioneer mentioned, you can move the GPU to your new build later (aka, when BD comes out).

And the PSU... agreed on that one. It should be fine for one decent GPU and an mildly overclocked CPU, but I wouldn't push it past that (its only got 36 amps on the 12v rail). If you plan on going with more than one GPU in the future, I would also invest in a different PSU.

EDIT:

And I guess I haven't been around for the last while, and hadn't heard that XFX's quality had gone down. Go with what Pioneer said, he knows his stuff .
Edited by logan - 8/4/11 at 8:08pm
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Well, the PSU is showing a MAXIMUM load of 432w on the 12v rail. Doesn't mention continuous wattage at all. So I can only guess and say its around 300w or so at best of real power. It'll handle it fine, but its going to be a very very tough push on that unit.

A good quality 400w (Corsair CX430 / Antec Neo ECO 400) would beat that unit every single day of the week, as they can ACTUALLY put out 380-400w continuous on the 12v rail.

And given that the Antec HCG 620w is $50 right now, its a steal of a unit at that price. That's the normal going price on a good 400w unit.
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The 6950 draws about 40w more than the 5770, so it will be harder on the PSU than before, but not near as hard as a higher end card (6970 draws another 50w, with the 580 another 60w above that). I still think that the OCZ will work, especially if the OP is on a tight budget right now.

I just want to add that both the Corsair CX430 and the 400CX are rated at less "max load" (336w and 360w respectively) than the OCZ. None of them are rated or advertised as continuous, and personally, I wouldn't feel comfortable pushing the 400w units to that high of a load on the 12v rail. Although I will definitely agree with you that the OCZ isn't the same quality as the Corsair units. However, OCA is far from the worst that you can do in regard to PSU's.

However, I think with the current price of the 620, that is a great idea, because the PSU is the heart of your computer. The 620 adds more room for growth, and should be operating in a more efficient range than the OCZ being pushed harder.
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