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Seriously, try to play GTA III on a Pentium II 450MHz with a 16MB graphics card. My laptop can BARELY pull playable framerates on it with a 64MB Geforce 6150.
When gta3 hit the pc a p2 was nowhere near good.
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Hmm, Steam version is fully updated usually. You can try updating the patch manually, but 99% of the time Steam does it for you.

That's odd, because vanilla GTA IV actually runs faster for me than EFLC. With both modded, they run about the same.
How do I check what version I am running? And what is the latest version of GTA 4?

I'll also note that while EFLC runs smooth GTA4 cooks my laptop. After a couple hours of gaming I have to restart my computer because it feels like its gonna blow up and gets very slow.
Edited by Nano2 - 8/4/11 at 11:49pm
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How do I check what version I am running? And what is the latest version of GTA 4?
Not entirely sure....check the main menu? I can't run it right now on my lappy so I can't tell you for sure.

The latest version is 1.07 though.
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A lot of people like to blame piracy..If that was the case then Steam wouldn't exist. Instead of growing it would most likely go out of business? If every PC gamer is pirating a game, why have Steam and Amazon been so successful then? And as the years go by, people are finding easier and better ways to play illegal games on consoles. Now with the whole jailbreak for the PS3 it's probably twice as easy now. However if PC gaming were to be a thing of the past, I'm pretty sure that the console market would somewhat suffer as well.

If it wasn't for PC gaming i'm sure the PS3 and Xbox wouldn't have internet capabilities. And if anyone hasn't notice, it seems that both companies are trying to make their consoles become inexpensive multimedia and gaming platforms. Take out PC gaming and soon PS3s and 360s will be just as expensive as an "average" gaming computer. In fact, they would just end up become computers themselves...if you sorta think about it.
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A lot of people like to blame piracy..If that was the case then Steam wouldn't exist. Instead of growing it would most likely go out of business? If every PC gamer is pirating a game, why have Steam and Amazon been so successful then? And as the years go by, people are finding easier and better ways to play illegal games on consoles. Now with the whole jailbreak for the PS3 it's probably twice as easy now. However if PC gaming were to be a thing of the past, I'm pretty sure that the console market would somewhat suffer as well.

If it wasn't for PC gaming i'm sure the PS3 and Xbox wouldn't have internet capabilities. And if anyone hasn't notice, it seems that both companies are trying to make their consoles become inexpensive multimedia and gaming platforms. Take out PC gaming and soon PS3s and 360s will be just as expensive as an "average" gaming computer. In fact, they would just end up become computers themselves...if you sorta think about it.
They are computers.

Not EVERY pc gamer pirates all of their games.

A lot of people buy their games so they can play multiplayer.

Although your right about the internet connection thing, theres no evidence too suggest this but I can imagine it.
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What do you expect them to say, "we don't support PC gaming b/c its easier and more profitable to release for consoles with PC as an afterthought, both in terms of release dates, design, and support."
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Funny thread is funny

You do realize that ALL of Rockstar games have ALL been direct console ports over to the PC, right? This is not a new practice at ALL. Look at GTA III, Vice City, San Andreas, Max Payne 1 and 2..... They were ALL released on consoles first, and ran like a turd on the hardware given at that time.

Seriously, try to play GTA III on a Pentium II 450MHz with a 16MB graphics card. My laptop can BARELY pull playable framerates on it with a 64MB Geforce 6150.
Max Payne 1 was PC first, just had to say that since i loved that game back in the day and completed it on the PC before trying it out on the PS2 when it came out for consoles. The rest though are all valid though and did run like turd on the hardware available.
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From the top of my mind only Valve, GSC, <Indie_devs> care about PC gamers.
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OP, there is a very good reason for the troubles you and almost all other PC gamers are having, and it all boils down to $$$.


Think about it. PC Gaming (excluding WoW) is NOT nearly as huuuuge of market as Console gaming is. Why would developers risk wasting their resources on a PC developed game and then port it over to Console when its essentially Low Risk and High Profit to do the exact opposite. Console gaming is BIG MONEY!

You may think the PC Gaming market is quite large, but in fact it is miniscule compared to Consoles. You know how many people have tried PC gaming, only to go back to Consoles due to the prohibitive cost and hardware compatibility issues? I managed the PC dept at Best Buy for a bit and you wouldn't believe how many people bought consoles over PC's just because it would cost them at least $600 to get into it and then if we did talk them into trying it, it would only end up in the PC being returned because they couldn't get the game to run. Either Driver Issues or not a pleasurable experience due to crappy playability because the GPU they bought (if they elected to go discreet) wasn't up to par.

What's even more ridiculous is the fact that even the $1000 PC's at Major Retailers are not capable of playing games without a discrete GPU. People do NOT want to bother with that. It's not worth their time, and to be honest, I agree with them completely. I've completely stopped playing games on PC. They're always unfinished, requiring massive updates, bugs, compatibility, and always needing bigger & badder hardware to get the full experience. When I buy a game for my XBOX 360, I know it's going to work and work well.


Consoles sell games. /thread
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Do you guys think Rockstar is supporting the PC? Just a moment ago I headed over to their site to see if I can find any info on LA Noire PC and one Rockstar employee said:

Hmm..I beg to differ on that really...Considering the fact that GTA 4 not only came out months after it was released on consoles, it was unplayable for most people. Now they're following the same trend with LA Noire but we have yet to see if it's optimized properly.

If you want you can read the comments here http://www.rockstargames.com/newswir...this-fall.html

I've seen a few RDR videos, and I'd rather buy that. Honestly if LA Noire comes out and they're asking full price like $60-$40 I'm not buying it. The only time I would be buying it is if it's at least $19.99. I'm not gonna fork over $50 on a console port when I can spend the same amount of money on a game that was developed for the PC (Skyrim, MW3, TW2). So I ask again, do you think Rockstar is supporting the PC as that one employee claims? Or are they full of **** and contradictions like Microsoft?
hate to break it to ya but skyrim is a console port too
http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/06/08/e3...our-lead-skew/
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