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Originally Posted by IIVisionII;14526622 
Oh well. If it is frivolous it's due to XFX. They told me to change the thermal paste. If you read my post (i know there's a lot of posts), you would see that I tried about half a dozen times, sometimes with a good amount of paste. I have a picture of it somewhere here too. Even they told me the card is running too hot originally and told me to change tim or send it back to be looked at.

My apologies, I didn't see that they instructed you to replace the paste.

In this case, it is on them, and you are right to RMA it. They should probably be providing you with a new tube of TIM too.
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Originally Posted by Evil Penguin;14526723 
OP, you pretty much had normal temps before this whole changing TIM thing.
You should have never changed it!

I don't understand why people continue to change the TIM on GPUs these days (with stock coolers). The difference is negligible or some times it makes it worse.
GPUs can run up to 100c stable!

XFX should have told him his temps were within the realm of normal, because they were. It really baffles me that they would tell an end user to dismantle one of their cards to change the TIM, especially without detailed instructions, and without sending him the materials to do so.

The default fan profile on the Radeon doesn't start really ramping fan speed until the card is already very warm, and it only does what it needs to to keep the card below 93C.
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post #102 of 126
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Originally Posted by Blameless;14527574 
My apologies, I didn't see that they instructed you to replace the paste.

In this case, it is on them, and you are right to RMA it. They should probably be providing you with a new tube of TIM too.


XFX should have told him his temps were within the realm of normal, because they were. It really baffles me that they would tell an end user to dismantle one of their cards to change the TIM, especially without detailed instructions, and without sending him the materials to do so.

The default fan profile on the Radeon doesn't start really ramping fan speed until the card is already very warm, and it only does what it needs to to keep the card below 93C.

No, OP decided to change the TIM, and couldn't get it applied well and then over time w/ all the applications he messed up the thermal pads on the card. The stock pads aren't intended for multiple mount/dismounts. He asked XFX, and his options were to re-apply TIM or send it in for them to do it.

There wasn't an option to say his temps were normal cuz he'd already done it a few times.

Anyways... doing stuff like this isn't for everybody.
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I strongly suggest he sends it back to XFX and demands a new one since they gave him bad advice.
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post #104 of 126
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Originally Posted by Evil Penguin;14534305 
I strongly suggest he sends it back to XFX and demands a new one since they gave him bad advice.

lol, it is op's fault.

First off, XFX or any other partner would never tell an end user to replace the stock tim. They recommend NOT to remove the stock cooler.

Now if you tell them you did replace the tim and now temps are hitting 100C, most partners would say you are screwed. No way you can RMA because it is your fault.

If you do send to XFX and they say they can't do anything for you, than that is on you the OP.
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For future reference, look at this picture. That is not enough tim. The corners aren't even covered at all. That is producing heat. You want the whole square covered, so don't listen to everyone telling you that you used too much. You used too little.

When you put the stock heatsink back together, you did screw on the x square bracket that goes on the 4 screws around the gpu first, right? That is the most critical part that needs the most pressure.

http://www.overclock.net/attachments/amd-ati/223078d1312527721-i-just-screwed-myself-didnt-i-img_0054.jpg
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Never mind
Edited by IIVisionII - 8/10/11 at 6:07pm
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Was going to say something, but never mind...
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post #108 of 126
Way way way too much tim.

Do not use any method other than manually spreading the tim.
That's why you are seeing a difference in the 3 temps.

The temps are all on die, and if the application is uneven, you'll see a large delta between the 3 temps.


I'll be back shortly with some images of exactly how much I use, and how I apply it.
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He's already just going to send it in for RMA.
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Originally Posted by juano;14537928 
He's already just going to send it in for RMA.

Yep I already sent in for RMA.

And @ homestyle, I guess XFX isn't your traditional company, because I'm not the first person they've told to change the thermal paste on it. I didn't change it until they specifically told me to try it, because I would never risk voiding the warranty on something this expensive.

If they had told me that the temperatures were normal, I would have just lived with it and if the card died earlier due to heat, just RMAd it at that point. I really did not want to spend the time/money to have to send it back to them. But they told me the temperatures weren't normal and my options were either A, send it in, or B attempt to change the TIM myself.
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