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Originally Posted by emeraldage;14473507 
okay so really there isn't a quality issue or issue. But sometimes if the mobo is stupid and can't give it's proper bandwidth I'll get artifact. I've been on PCI for this long and haven't had any I don't believe.

Why would PCI go away? Wouldn't it not make since if EVERY slot was dedicated? Rather than a few? haha.

It's not because a mobo "is stupid" or "can't give it's proper bandwidth". It is how all bus protocol are designed (PCI included)... they must share the bus.

PCI is going away because PCIe is more flexible, provides more power, easier to manage, and is faster. Intel dropped native PCI years ago.

I have no idea what this means: "Wouldn't it not make since if EVERY slot was dedicated? Rather than a few? haha."

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Originally Posted by cook;14473544 
Speaking of pure bandwidth Pci express 1x seems to be a little slower than what most motherboards PCI offerings these days.

pci 1x @ 250Mb/s

pci 64bit /133 which moves 533.3 MB/s.

Consumer PCI is 32-bit, 33MHz so that is 133.3MB/s. This is barely enough for a modern HDD.

x1 PCIe 1.x is 250MB/s but all current chipsets support version 2.x. That means all current x1 PCIe support 500MB/s.
Edited by DuckieHo - 8/5/11 at 7:18am
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I don't know 133.3mb/s seems plenty to make sound o.O lol
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Very little difference from a practical viewpoint. Unless of course you're running an SLi rig on a chipset with very limited PCI-e lanes. If this is the case, then you're probably better off with PCI, to keep as many lanes as possible free for the SLI/Xfire.
Other than that case, you will see no practical difference between the two. Pick whichever you want.
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I don't know 133.3mb/s seems plenty to make sound o.O lol
I already said PCI is a bus. This means ALL PCI devices on a motherboard share this 133MB/s.

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Originally Posted by 3dfxvoodoo View Post
this
Not this. The reasoning is flawed since PCIe lanes are dedicated and are rarely (if ever) joined to x8/x16 lanes.
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well today's space are no problem you always can get this PCIe 1x
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Jerome Bettis is a bus.
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Jerome Bettis is a bus.
Please don't post irrelevant off-topic posts especially if you are asking for advice and want knowledge.


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well today's space are no problem you always can get this PCIe 1x
A GPU's heatsink will probably still prevent that from fitting.
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Sir, we are talking about buses. Lol. My question has been answered and then dragged into being much more complicated XD
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Sir, we are talking about buses. Lol. My question has been answered and then dragged into being much more complicated XD

Not really all that, complicated...
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Originally Posted by Fr0sty View Post
pci is limited in bandwith


compared to pci-e
actually the X denominator on the PCI-e represents how many times quicker it is than PCI.
So pci- x1 = PCI.
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