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I get what you're saying and agree that it "sucks" but in all honesty, it "sucks" for the developer trying to earn an honest buck when a used game sale earns them nothing. Having such a system forces everyone to buy the game new, for which the revenue goes to the developer.
That is total insanity, these guys have so many sympathetic thinkers now, after POUNDING it into our brains that they are all poor and make no money. These guys make MILLIONS of dollars, and should stand up to publishers to lower cost, not raise profit by sticking us. We have a RIGHT to sell something THAT WE BOUGHT, they do not "deserve" profit from a resale. These guys twist the fact that they can't over GAMESTOP ripping us off, and making insane profit off of us which could be them, into the fact that "We shouldn't sell used games". YEAH RIGHT. Just more greed, planting a couple seeds into some articles for the past 10 years to make it sound like a "woe is me" story.

There are plenty of people that will makes these games FOR FREE (me included). They will pour blood, sweat, and tears into them for years to come out with a product, and spend all of their own money doing it... And you know what? THAT is where the best games come from anyways.

Don't forget to give the car company a chunk of profit when you sell your used car

Or your used couch
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The original Diablo team left Blizzard and made Torchlight iirc. You guys are just buying the name and the brand...not the quality of the game.
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I'm just going to voice my opinion because i think the minority is being really vocal. I would never play diablo offline, and don't care about this one bit..
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The original Diablo team left Blizzard and made Torchlight iirc. You guys are just buying the name and the brand...not the quality of the game.
I'm guessing you 're in the D3 alpha/beta since you know from experience it's not a quality game.

Amazes me how people can talk like it's a terrible game before even trying it. It's only terrible because you make it out to be terrible. Atleast try it first or wait until others try it.
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from the article, it doesn't seem like the Blizzard dev is answering any of the complaints of people being able to play while off the grid. fair enough if it's not turning into a totally social game, but what about those that simply don't want to have to access the internet to play (for their own reasons)?
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Interestingly, there's also an interview with someone from Runic (the torchlight 2 devs) about D3's DRM:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...-auction-house


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Blizzard's controversial decision to demand Diablo 3 users have a persistent online connection isn't necessarily there to combat piracy, believes Torchlight 2 developer Runic Games. It could in fact be a vital measure in ensuring the security of the game's new real-money auction house.

CEO Max Schaefer – a co-creator of the original Diablo while at Blizzard North – told Eurogamer that he sees the "onerous" DRM measure as an unavoidable consequence of Diablo 3's ambitious trading features. As such, he argued, it's a valid move.

"We were very happy to see we have more points of distinction now between us and Diablo 3," he joked, while discussing Blizzard's recent announcement.

"However, we fully understand why they're doing what they're doing. They've kind of gone the opposite way we have with an open game and modding tools and stuff like that, whereas they want to have an absolutely secure economy and preserve the complete integrity – or at least try to preserve the complete integrity – of the gameplay.

"To do that you have to have some of these pretty onerous restrictions. I kind of understand where they're going – you have to have those things to have a truly secure economy.

"I don't think it's an invalid choice. While I'm happy they're doing it as it gives us a great opportunity, I also understand what they're doing and I don't think it's an invalid thing to do."

So, Diablo 3's DRM is there to keep the auction house safe?

"Yeah, pretty much. They want to have that be meaningful. I don't really know why they don't allow single player offline as you could segregate those characters and not run into that, but the bulk of what they announced really makes sense given what they're trying to do."

Schaefer also offered a little more information on exactly what sort of DRM measures Runic will be implementing with Torchlight 2 when it launches later this year.

"We don't have zero DRM, we just have very simple DRM. In fact with our boxed copies we'll have almost no DRM at all," he revealed.

"The way we're handling it is that you'll have access to our patching and matchmaking service only by logging in with your account. You don't need to use either of those but that's how we're approaching it.

"We don't want to penalise our honest customers just to squeak out a few more sales from people who pirate."
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Are you somehow under the assumption that single player won't be hacked and pirated? Tell me how many single player games that you know of that haven't been cracked within a few days of release.

Don't delude yourself into thinking that Blizzard has done this to prevent piracy, they know as well as anyone their game will be hacked within days.

The only reason I can think of for this was so they could let people who had been playing single player go online with those same characters at any time. In my opinion they could have two options for single player. Single player mode with online connection required, and those single player characters could go into multiplayer at any time, and single player with no internet connection, and those characters could never be used online or in multiplayer.
I support this initiative!

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there's the single player right there



i am buying a legitimate copy, but blizzard is going backwards and a lot of people won't be buying D3 for multiple reasons provided by blizzard.
For you youngins, that sail has a picture of something called a "cassette tape". Its something that you would put in a "boom box" and use it to record songs on the "radio". OK, maybe you do know what radio is.

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I simply think by 2011, if you have a PC and can buy a new game, you would at least have internet. ...
Have you met my friend the Cap Monster? He is a monster that makes your life suck after you use to much bandwidth in a set period of time.

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Because you have to pay a game to play it !
Nowadays ALL games are getting cracked whatever the protection is ! If the DRM is able to prevent that, so I'm 100% in favor.
This had nothing to do with your original post about not having cheaters.
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Don't forget it's larger than just the online thing (no mods, RMAH) but sadly it would still be arround 5%
I've played a decent amount of Diablo II and I'm still not aware of any mods existing for the game, unless people are talking about hacks which are quite different than mods (And not something people should be proud of using).
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I've played a decent amount of Diablo II and I'm still not aware of any mods existing for the game, unless people are talking about hacks which are quite different than mods (And not something people should be proud of using).
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The original Diablo team left Blizzard and made Torchlight iirc. You guys are just buying the name and the brand...not the quality of the game.
And the original team (renamed to Blizzard North) were making turn-based game. Blizzard forced them to make a lot of changes and first 2 games are the result of that. I would go as far as the success of D1/D2 would probably indicate that Blizzard made a right decisions.

So your point being?
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