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Originally Posted by lordikon View Post
And not calling Notch indie is like screaming to the world that you don't know what indie means.



As a programmer this offends me, I can tell you right now that it would take probably 500-1000 man hours for me to re-create minecraft verbatim. And you act like that kind of time and expertise is nothing. Every game you've ever played has ideas from other games. And then on top of it you play and enjoy the game and still talk crap about it? Please quit being a tool.
Notch didn't even hire any additional staff until Reddit discovered Minecraft. It was just Notch, with C418 doing the music all the way up until infdev.

There isn't a lot of difference between infdev and beta, so even now Notch has still likely written nearly all of the code by himself.

You can't get much more Indie than that. Even "indie" game studios are made up of more people than Mojang.




Oh and, since its the "cool" thing to do, "I'm boycotting Skyrim" etc...
    
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Actually I'm still willing and interested in buying it, but they need to lay off the lawsuit first.

I have two friends that work at Bethesda (although neither are working on Skyrim), the developers themselves are great people, it's the lawyers that are being douches. But if you support the business in any way while they're doing stuff like this then you're not giving them a reason not to.
Because people buy games because the enjoy it, or want to support the company. Not buying it just because they're suing people doesn't really make sense, since you not buying it will have 0 effect.
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just retarded. all this lawyer happy activity in america needs to stop. stupid cases like this should be dismissed immediately.
Its not in america...Its in Sweden...Where Notch lives...
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Still buying Skyrim, but this is mean!
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"...Wow..." Some's my feelings up on this topic just fine.
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Originally Posted by Vagrant Storm View Post
...Most people probably don't even know the full title of Skyrim is the "The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim" The few times any of the games in the series have the "The Elder Scrolls" attached to its name it is ussually abveviated TES
Except they have all been abbreviated that.

Anyway, these lawyers have no lives.
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http://notch.tumblr.com/post/8519901309/bethesda-are-suing-us-heres-the-full-story

Because I couldn't see it anywhere in here yet:
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A lot of people want more details about what is going on, so here is everything I know:

First of all, I love Bethesda. I assume this nonsense is partly just their lawyers being lawyers, and a result of trademark law being the way it is.

About half a year ago, our lawyers recommended us to register “Minecraft” as a trademark, so we did. I had voted against it initially, but we did it anyway. Better safe than sorry, and all that. At the same time, we also applied for “Scrolls”, the new game we’re working on. We knew of no similarly named games, and we had even googled it to make sure. I’m not even sure if you CAN trademark individual words, like “Scrolls”, but we sent in the application anyway.

(Disclosure: We’ve enforced the trademark for Minecraft once, when there was a minecraft clone on iOS, using our name. People were emailing me saying our iOS version was buggy and bad, so we asked them to change the name of their game, and they did.)

More at the source.
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Actually I'm still willing and interested in buying it, but they need to lay off the lawsuit first.

I have two friends that work at Bethesda (although neither are working on Skyrim), the developers themselves are great people, it's the lawyers that are being douches. But if you support the business in any way while they're doing stuff like this then you're not giving them a reason not to.
I'm with you. What this company is doing really crosses a line in my book. The people behind Bethsoft are soulless.
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Because people buy games because the enjoy it, or want to support the company. Not buying it just because they're suing people doesn't really make sense, since you not buying it will have 0 effect.
And not voting will have zero impact on an election too, right?
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Originally Posted by Mobius01 View Post
Sure. I'm gonna confuse the word 'Scrolls' with 'Skyrim'
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind.
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion.
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim.
The Elder Scrolls VI: Unwashed Elves.

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Originally Posted by Vagrant Storm View Post
I have absolutely nothign constructive to say about this...how could any one?

Most people probably don't even know the full title of Skyrim is the "The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim" The few times any of the games in the series have the "The Elder Scrolls" attached to its name it is ussually abveviated TES
Indeed, it's quite dumb.

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Marketing and legal departments. Pushin' them pencils.

To be fair, it is similar and the first google hit. However it isn't like he's going to release anything that is going to take the spotlight from Skyrim.
It's the first google hit for Scrolls, but anyone searching for TES wouldn't only search Scrolls...They'd either search Skyrim or The Elder Scrolls.

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A large game studio is suing a small independent developer over something idiotic. It is extremely sad that it is not a big deal to you. People that support companies that do this crap should be ashamed of themselves. It's gamers just like yourself that complain about the big gaming studios screwing over gamers just to make more profits, and then they go and do something like this and you guys argue for supporting those same big studios? Amazing....
This.

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Well, by supporting their development team, you support them as an entity, legal team and all. If an entity can't manage it's public facing relations correctly, maybe they don't deserve to be supported.

I don't have an opinion on it either way, but it is worth thinking about.
Eh, if Bethesda actually goes all the way and forces Mojang to change the name, I'll be getting rid of my Skyrim pre-order, but if they just end up not doing anything (As this is a "Our lawyers are bored" type issue, I bet it'll just fizzle down.) then I wouldn't worry.

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Originally Posted by Anthraxinsoup View Post
CODE MINECRAFT BY HIMSELF!?!??! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! I seriously lol'd hard IRL. The idea wasn't even his, he's worse than apple with stealing ideas. I still play the game though.
He stole the idea of mining from Infiniminer, but pretty much recoded everything himself...And added countless other ideas, last I checked, Infiniminer doesn't have half the features or fun of Minecraft.

AMD was pretty much making the same CPUs as Intel during the 8086, 286, etc era, that doesn't mean they didn't have any talent in the engineering department, does it?

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I play it because my other craft games are complete. He ripped out another game, and freaking admits it.
And? TES ripped off the entire fantasy genre. CoD ripped off Halo. BF3 ripped off bits of CoD, Halo, etc.

There is no game that isn't inspired by another game these days.

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I can tell you that right now I know of no other near-infinite randomly generated multiplayer online 3D games like Minecraft, that existed before Minecraft. So obviously he did something right.
This! Fair enough to call Indev a rip off of Infiniminer, but Infdev, Alpha and Beta are so different and better...Well, it's hard to call it a ripoff.

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Most of you guys read the first post and not the actual link, then those saying there not gonna buy it wasnt gonna buy it in the first place.
Do you really want me to scan the receipt I have for my pre-order?

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Originally Posted by Tunechi View Post
Because people buy games because the enjoy it, or want to support the company. Not buying it just because they're suing people doesn't really make sense, since you not buying it will have 0 effect.
You entirely miss the point...It does make sense, they don't get my business and don't get my money, especially since I actually have pre-ordered it.

That said, I can tell this will fizzle down to nothing, it's just Beths lawyers waiting for Apple to find Skyrim uses some piece of technology they bought.
    
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