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So I am going to build my first PC to overclock. Main purpose of the computer is to game and have fun building it.

Games: Diablo 3 hopefully soon, SC2, Combat Arms, etc.

Price Range $1500-$1800 with monitor, mouse, keyboard, etc and shipping. I do plan on shopping around for best prices and have no problems buying from multiple places. Location is Minnesota, USA.

Basic setup I have been looking at. I5 2600k, Z68 motherboard, 8 megs ram (a little over kill but I was looking at 16 before). I am not looking at doing SLI with 2 video cards. But want a 2gb card. Since I will not have a lot of pics or videos on I don’t need the biggest hard drive but would like to try and fit in an SSD. I see that water cooling is starting to catch on but I want to stay away from it if I can. I do not need a blue ray and plan on doing a 24†monitor.

Questions or Concerns:
Does the SSD really help with gaming
Want a easy BIOS for overclocking
Video Card: AMD vs Radeon everything I have read says AMD.
Does a Gaming network Card help that much better then the one on board the motherboard.

Thanks to everyone that helped me in my other post.

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I5 2500k MSI p67a - gd65 (b3) XFX HD-695X-CNDC Radeon HD 6950 8gb corsiar vengeance low profile 
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2500k (look at Tiger Direct,Ewiz, Superbiiz..don't pay over $200)
8gb of today's shell shocker on Newegg (buy now) $50
P67 or Z68 motherboard ($100 to $140)
600w Corsair psu ($39.99 after rebate at newegg)
Look for open box monitors and video cards at newegg and you should be able to snag something great for cheap.

Btw, the 2600k is an i7, but not needed for gaming.
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Video card doesn't matter just get best performance/price at the time.
SSD only helps with games loading times won't matter for playing
Most BIOS are very similar and any higher end mobo will let you OC easily.
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First of all, if you are in the Twin Cities, get to Micro Center quickly, they have a great deal where if you buy an intel i series proc, you get $40 off a mobo, and the i5 2500k (best bang for the buck proc for gaming there is, period) is also $40 cheaper at Microcenter than it is on newegg ($179 vs. $219). That saves you probably 80$ over newegg prices.

As far as the rest, I'll see what I can put together for you without the proc and board assuming you can get to MC.

And no, an SSD realy wont help with gaming.

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Originally Posted by mtdew5309 View Post
Video Card: AMD vs Radeon everything I have read says AMD.
Well.....I think it depends. I can tell you that the 69xx series cards from ATI scale exceptionally well, like %90 or more performance increase when you add another in X-fire. I love my 6950 I can tell you that, quietest and coolest card I have owned in years.

Also, do you need an OS?
Edited by fuloran1 - 8/5/11 at 12:46pm
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As mentioned, an SSD will not helping once you get into the game, it will only make loading screens go quicker, as well as the initial install. If you shut down your comp a lot, or open a lot of programs, it will make your computer feel way faster! If you got a 2500k instead of a 2600k, you could use that 100 dollars to get like a 60-100GB SSD to put the OS and some games on.

BIOS may look different, but when it comes down to it, they all do pretty much the same thing. Some boards may have UEFI, (meaning you can use your mouse in the bios instead of just your keyboard) and they are more visually appealing, but they still do the same thing as a keyboard only BIOS.

I think that an AMD 6970 is a better buy than a 570, which are both in the same price range. People always complain about the AMD drivers, but they have gotten way better and there are rarely any issues when using current gen hardware. It really is a personal choice, some people swear by nVidia. You said you wanted a 2GB card, and AMD are the only 2 gig cards you can get, besides the 3GB 580. 570s are only 1.5GB. Not that it will make a huge difference

The gaming network card is really a scam in my opinion. It may lower your ping (the time it takes info to get from your comp to the game server) but I think you will be just fine with the built in technology, the great majority of people stick with that and are just fine. Some add in cards come with software that prioritizes packets from the game over, say, a music download, to keep your games and full speed all the time. A card like this will be even less important since you will be playing Diablo III and SC2 a lot, which are not games you need extra high pings for.

Good luck with the build mate! Trust me, it will be a fun experience and once again, welcome to OCN
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Phenom II 955 BE (4.4Ghz @1.52v) NB @ 2870 Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 Rev. 1.1 [F4] Dual Reference XFX 2GB 6950s (950/1437) 1.25v 8GB Gskill DDR3 1333 CL7 @1412 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 3570k 4.5Ghz 1.25v AsRock z77E-ITX XFX Reference 2GB 6950 1015/1500 1.255v 8gb Gskill Trident X 2400 C10 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung 830 128GB Ek Supreme HF White Acetal/EK FC 6970 Windows 7 Dell U2913WM 2560x1080 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Cooler Master Silent Pro Hybrid 1050w Caselabs Mercury S3 Logitech G500 Fiio E10k USB DAC 
Audio
Creative Aurvana Live! 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II 955 BE (4.4Ghz @1.52v) NB @ 2870 Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 Rev. 1.1 [F4] Dual Reference XFX 2GB 6950s (950/1437) 1.25v 8GB Gskill DDR3 1333 CL7 @1412 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Vertex II 60GB, 2x Caviar Black EK Supreme HF, EK FC 6970 Windows 7 Ultimate Alienware AW2210 1080p 
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Logitech Illuminated Corsair 650TX Cooler Master Storm Scout Logitech G9 
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Here is something I came up with, 6970's are very hard to come by right now, but there is one on the egg. 6990's are impossible (and way too spendy if you ask me). Take off what you don't need, and I did not add a mouse/keyboard as that's more of a personal preference imo. Shipping on all of it is 5.99 total as most is free shipping. As I mentioned, you would need to get the board/proc at MC if that's possible.

I also wanted to mention that imo, 8gb of ram is definitely not overkill, its too cheap not to get that much right now!



*edit* added SSD, still within budget if you dont go crazy on a board.
Edited by fuloran1 - 8/5/11 at 1:38pm
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