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post #81 of 95
11/10/12 at 11:58pm
What a silly response from the "technical" department.
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post #82 of 95
11/11/12 at 2:56am
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Originally Posted by HaiiYaa View Post

Some of those you listed DOES fit what you are looking for, but if you don't like any of those maybe you should wait for the ninox velocity or ninox aurora to be released?

I'm keeping an eye on this, however it seems to be a reworked/tweaked WMO for clawgrip?
All of the mice I listed are very good width wise but the issue I have is with the lengths and/or height of them.

When I fingertip grip, my wrist becomes an anchor.
It's my pivot point and all my muscle memory and actions are based on that centre of origin.
One full horizontal sweep is a perfect 360° spin. Half a sweep is a perfect 180°.
The problem arises when pulling the mouse down towards me - it crashes into my palm/pivot point.
In order to aim completely downwards, I need to lift my wrist and forearm - in turn my elbow now becomes my new pivot point and my finger tips struggle valiantly to control the mouse.
After a while it's tiring and painful (RSI from intense gripping of the mouse).
As a result, my rocket jumping suffers badly.

Here's a small diagram to try explain all that a little better!
ofQgC.png
*my hand. not to scale.

The Zowie MiCO seemed to be perfect... I'm very saddened to find this thread actually smile.gif
What's the point of even selling the MiCO if it's buggy?

Bah. I don't understand why the smaller fingertip grip mice are always aimed at the 'budget' market and filled with crap components and generally have a poor build quality.
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post #83 of 95
11/11/12 at 3:00am
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Originally Posted by teroteki View Post

I'm keeping an eye on this, however it seems to be a reworked/tweaked WMO for clawgrip?
All of the mice I listed are very good width wise but the issue I have is with the lengths and/or height of them.
When I fingertip grip, my wrist becomes an anchor.
It's my pivot point and all my muscle memory and actions are based on that centre of origin.
One full horizontal sweep is a perfect 360° spin. Half a sweep is a perfect 180°.
The problem arises when pulling the mouse down towards me - it crashes into my palm/pivot point.
In order to aim completely downwards, I need to lift my wrist and forearm - in turn my elbow now becomes my new pivot point and my finger tips struggle valiantly to control the mouse.
After a while it's tiring and painful (RSI from intense gripping of the mouse).
As a result, my rocket jumping suffers badly.
Here's a small diagram to try explain all that a little better!
ofQgC.png
*my hand. not to scale.
The Zowie MiCO seemed to be perfect... I'm very saddened to find this thread actually smile.gif
What's the point of even selling the MiCO if it's buggy?
Bah. I don't understand why the smaller fingertip grip mice are always aimed at the 'budget' market and filled with crap components and generally have a poor build quality.

Small fingertip mouse with the best sensor = Salmosa Asia Progaming Edition? lol
It's a 1800DPI Avago S3688, with angle snapping though.
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post #84 of 95
11/11/12 at 3:11am
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Small fingertip mouse with the best sensor = Salmosa Asia Progaming Edition? lol
It's a 1800DPI Avago S3688, with angle snapping though.
I'm not sure if you're suggesting it or mocking it?
When you've got your movements down to a couple of inches, angle snapping is completely detrimental.
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post #85 of 95
11/11/12 at 7:28am
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I'm not sure if you're suggesting it or mocking it?
When you've got your movements down to a couple of inches, angle snapping is completely detrimental.

The Mico has angle snapping/prediction set higher than other mice. Not quite as high as the AE salmosa though. (I have one of those too)
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post #86 of 95
11/11/12 at 7:50am
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I'm not sure if you're suggesting it or mocking it?
When you've got your movements down to a couple of inches, angle snapping is completely detrimental.

The angle-snapping is noticeable but unless i am trying to draw delicate curves, I don't really feel any detriment in normal use. YMMV
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post #87 of 95
11/11/12 at 7:12pm
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The Mico has angle snapping/prediction set higher than other mice. Not quite as high as the AE salmosa though. (I have one of those too)
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The angle-snapping is noticeable but unless i am trying to draw delicate curves, I don't really feel any detriment in normal use. YMMV

stitchfacesmiley.png Thanks for the info guys. Angle snapping triggers some deep hidden OCD in me.
Just out of curiosity, I've ordered 2 Salmosa AE's off ebay (I'd like to compare the shell to the MiCO and possibly mod one).
I guess the MiCO is a dud purchase for me. Maybe I can swap the internals with different components?

My last mouse was a SteelSeries XAI modded into a Kinzu shell. It worked great but the scrollwheel died, and that caused me to continue my hunt for a 'perfect' fingertip mouse.

Zowie, what is the point of creating a high-precision pointing instrument with angle snapping?
I just don't understand the logic behind it.

Also, was there a survey done at some point which indicated that fingertip grip users were skinflints and that right-handed palm users were generously wealthy spenders?
(read: Please stop making small mice with crap components. You're just wasting plastic.)
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post #88 of 95
11/11/12 at 7:19pm
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Originally Posted by teroteki View Post

stitchfacesmiley.png Thanks for the info guys. Angle snapping triggers some deep hidden OCD in me.
Just out of curiosity, I've ordered 2 Salmosa AE's off ebay (I'd like to compare the shell to the MiCO and possibly mod one).
I guess the MiCO is a dud purchase for me. Maybe I can swap the internals with different components?
My last mouse was a SteelSeries XAI modded into a Kinzu shell. It worked great but the scrollwheel died, and that caused me to continue my hunt for a 'perfect' fingertip mouse.
Zowie, what is the point of creating a high-precision pointing instrument with angle snapping?
I just don't understand the logic behind it.
Also, was there a survey done at some point which indicated that fingertip grip users were skinflints and that right-handed palm users were generously wealthy spenders?
(read: Please stop making small mice with crap components. You're just wasting plastic.)

Hope you like the Salmosa AE thumb.gif I would also like to see how the old but good Avago S3688 compares with the newer PixArt sensor wink.gif
LOL at the last paragraph biggrin.gif
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post #89 of 95
11/12/12 at 12:38am
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In order to aim completely downwards, I need to lift my wrist and forearm - in turn my elbow now becomes my new pivot point and my finger tips struggle valiantly to control the mouse.
After a while it's tiring and painful (RSI from intense gripping of the mouse).
As a result, my rocket jumping suffers badly.
Here's a small diagram to try explain all that a little better!
ofQgC.png
*my hand. not to scale.
The Zowie MiCO seemed to be perfect... I'm very saddened to find this thread actually smile.gif
What's the point of even selling the MiCO if it's buggy?
Bah. I don't understand why the smaller fingertip grip mice are always aimed at the 'budget' market and filled with crap components and generally have a poor build quality.

Hello from another user of the stationary-wrist fingertip grip!

For the moving-downwards problem, having a physically small mouse makes a large difference. The Salmosa AE should be good in that regard. Also, another thing that buys me a little more Y-Axis is having a mousepad with a wrist rest-- bonus points if it's a wrist rest where the resting surface is suspended from the front rather than just being a mound, making it possible to actually tuck the back of the mouse under the pivot point if necessary.
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post #90 of 95
11/12/12 at 2:04am
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Originally Posted by raisinbun View Post

Hope you like the Salmosa AE thumb.gif I would also like to see how the old but good Avago S3688 compares with the newer PixArt sensor wink.gif
LOL at the last paragraph biggrin.gif
Heh, cheers smile.gif The Salmosa AE's have been marked as dispatched and i should receive the MiCO in the next few days.

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Also, another thing that buys me a little more Y-Axis is having a mousepad with a wrist rest-- bonus points if it's a wrist rest where the resting surface is suspended from the front rather than just being a mound, making it possible to actually tuck the back of the mouse under the pivot point if necessary.
Woah, I can't believe I never thought of that!
I think my only encounter with a wrist rest was the first time I ever used a mouse - didn't like it and never thought about them again.

Just had a rummage around for something similar to a wrist rest and found some foam mattress TEMPUR samples I had hidden away.
It definitely adds extra Y movement!

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This got me thinking.. maybe I could make some kind of padded wrist band...
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