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post #11 of 29
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Originally Posted by kz26;14497928 
I'd ditch that MSI board real fast. No MOSFET cooling = danger when trying to overclock or unlock. Just take a look around here at some of the stories about MSI boards catching fire/exploding.

eek.gifeek.gifeek.gif So, does that mean that my problem right now is due to MOSFET or mobo overheating? I don't want to see my mobo catching fire because I already fried my Asus M4N68T-M V2 less than 24 hour after having my pc at home and replaced with my current mobo. My supplier claimed my mobo are better product.confused.gif Any recommended MOSFET cooling that compatible with my mobo?
Edited by diaBoliQu3 - 8/7/11 at 12:29pm
post #12 of 29
Your CPU is unlocked, those 2 cores were locked for a reason. By the looks of it you have a 4-phase mobo so those 2 extra cores might be messing with it thats why i said its an overheat problem. Btw the 300 fsb was just an example i hope, thats a way too high overclock. Stress it using prime 95 and monitor using CPU-Z HW monitor and see if the multi keeps dropping to 4x, if it does go to 4x then back to 16.5x and so on its an overheat issue. Hope this helps.
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Your CPU is unlocked, those 2 cores were locked for a reason. By the looks of it you have a 4-phase mobo so those 2 extra cores might be messing with it thats why i said its an overheat problem. Btw the 300 fsb was just an example i hope, thats a way too high overclock. Stress it using prime 95 and monitor using CPU-Z HW monitor and see if the multi keeps dropping to 4x, if it does go to 4x then back to 16.5x and so on its an overheat issue. Hope this helps.

emdea22: FYI, this problem was first detected before I unlock it to quad core. So, if I use dual core, does it give effect to my gaming performance? Tried cpu:OCCT
with high priority and I didn't detect any multiplier problem during test and it last for 6 hour without any error. Prime 95 work fine. My pc only freeze during cpu:OCCT if it was 800MHz after <2 minutes test.

Knika: Thank you. Did you have those copper things to? And how many temp are decreased?
Edited by diaBoliQu3 - 8/7/11 at 12:56pm
post #15 of 29
I use them on all of the mb that don't come with a heatsink already mounted. I see about a 5-10c drop in temps. On some builds I install a 40mm fan on a pedestal mount above the heatsinks and it blows a little more air on the heatsinks and drops the temps a little more.

I would reset your bios to default and only two cores and run it for a while and see if the problem is still there.
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post #16 of 29
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Originally Posted by Knika;14498407 
I use them on all of the mb that don't come with a heatsink already mounted. I see about a 5-10c drop in temps. On some builds I install a 40mm fan on a pedestal mount above the heatsinks and it blows a little more air on the heatsinks and drops the temps a little more.

I would reset your bios to default and only two cores and run it for a while and see if the problem is still there.

As I mention above, happen before I unlock my CPU to quad core. Tried to default mobo setting, Mr. Problem still there *Sigh. The last thing I want to do now is to buy a new cpu and mobo. New cpu+mobo=1/2 of my salary frown.gif
post #17 of 29
Don't worry about a new cpu, yours is probably fine. If the mobo was warranty you could just get a new one for free but if you install heatsinks using adhesive thermal glue you WILL lose your warranty so keep that in mind. Reset bios to default make sure you dont have any dust on the mobo/cpu cooler and stress test using prime95 and monitor using CPUZ HW monitor, see if the multi drops WHILE testing. Also you could make a screenshot of CPU-Z HW monitor and post it.
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I'm unable to attach file from ocn however able to upload to imageshack.

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My bios after power on. Noted that my current cpu frequency was 800 but I already set it to 16.5x200

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My overclock summary according to AIDA during 3.3GHz Same BIOS setting

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Pre-unlock. Core speed at 800MHz, same BIOS setting. Core voltage only 1.032V

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Post-unlock. Core speed still 800MHz. Core voltage only 1.032V

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After restart. Core speed 3.3GHz. Core voltage increased to 1.376V

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If you ask for CPUz HWMonitor screenshot, here it is. I wonder why my core temp undetected. Tried SpeedFan, CoreTemp, same result. Is this mean my cpu are to hot? Currently monitor my temp using AIDA sensor. Any other monitoring apps?
post #19 of 29
MSI boards do not detect if MOSFETs are overheating, there's absolutely no protection. That contributes to amount of failures.
Cooling doesn't help either. You'll waste your money - most of MSI's low end boards fail ANYWAY.

However, I somewhat doubt it's MOSFET overheating here.... seems to be more of a BIOS issue
Since cool'n'quiet seems to not be working properly, turn it off; same with C1E.

I've already gave this user a warning about using an MSI 3+1 board before... he said he was planning to switch boards soon, if I'm not mistaken.
I recommend not unlocking and using the stock cooler meanwhile.
Edited by xd_1771 - 8/8/11 at 11:50am
post #20 of 29
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Originally Posted by xd_1771;14509302 
MSI boards do not detect if MOSFETs are overheating, there's absolutely no protection. That contributes to amount of failures.
Cooling doesn't help either. You'll waste your money - most of MSI's low end boards fail ANYWAY.

However, I somewhat doubt it's MOSFET overheating here.... seems to be more of a BIOS issue
Since cool'n'quiet seems to not be working properly, turn it off; same with C1E.

I've already gave this user a warning about using an MSI 3+1 board before... he said he was planning to switch boards soon, if I'm not mistaken.
I recommend not unlocking and using the stock cooler meanwhile.

Do you think flashing bios can solve this? Or you guys suggest can me any better mobo and cpu? Maybe a better low end or a mid end. Budget are my main issue here:) If i change mobo, should I change cpu or stay with this one. My pc are for gaming, but a little OCing will be fun. Currently doesn't having issue while playing game but this messed up multiplier and fsb have really bugging me.
Edited by diaBoliQu3 - 8/8/11 at 4:30pm
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