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I know very little about it but I may get another HDD so should I get raid? What's all the benefits, how's it work, and recommendation on a card?
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Depends on what purpose you want with the extra drive - do you want security? speed?

If you're looking for security then it would be Raid1 which would use the 2nd drive as a duplicate and write all the same information to both drives decreasing the potential for failure by 1/2.

If you want speed then you want raid0, which would use both drives at the same time, increase the potential for failure by double, but also theoretically double your performance and double your capacity (taking into account they are the same size drives).

I personally go with Raid0 as I don't have all that much that is important stored on the drives, it provides a substantial increase in speed and doubles the capacity of the drive. Take into account the failure rate on hard drives, and Raid0 is fairly safe, although I wouldn't store files that you absolutely cannot live without in the event of drive failure.
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I would want Raid0. Can you use different brands of HDDs? What's the rules for mixing?
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any brand of HDD besides Seagate, they suck horribly

must be the following:

the same size as your drive you have now

the same spindle speed

and the same data read/write rate (most drives now are 3Gb/s)
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Best to always use the same drive you have. if you can find the same one, pick up 2 new drives to raid with and keep what you have as backup or storage.
    
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Use any hard drive. Seagate has really bad reputation at the moment so stay away from them unless they can release great hard drives next time now that they have samsung. Anyways, the easiest would be having 2 of the same drives and put them in RAID.
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I bought 2 WDs for a RAID0 setup. Super fast. I use the motherboard raid controller. No need for a card.

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If you need straight up speed, then RAID 0 as it is cheap and offers very fast speeds especially if you short stroke. The reason to use this is again speed and disk space for cheap. Problem is if one drives fails you loose all your data.

RAID 1 is mirroring, meaning you have exact copies of your data across 2 drives. Great for data security but it is slow.

RAID0+1 - This gives you the benefit of RAID0 plus RAID0 - mirroring and striping. This allows you to have speed along with data security. Problem is it isn't the most expandable

RAID5 - Offers the best in terms of data security but is slow when it comes to writing data, and isn't nearly as fast as reading as RAID0, but you have to be willing to sacrifice for data security.
You need at least 3 drives. But if one fails you don't loose any data PERIOD and there is no down time. Just take the dead drive out, slap ina new one and the system rebuilds. Problem is if you loose more than 1 drive your boned. Problem is that you "loose" a disk to parity.


RAID6 - rare in the civilian sector - offers the advantages of raid5 but is more resilient allowing up to 2 drives to fail

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID


Although personally you don't need a RAID controller as your onboard will work just fine.
 
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I know very little about it but I may get another HDD so should I get raid? What's all the benefits, how's it work, and recommendation on a card?
Desktop performance for 95% of what you do will be unaffected. Raid will only help sequential read/writes (tossing around huge video files,etc). For most desktop use and gaming, Raid offers nothing. Lots of forum members will show you some useless HDTech graphs, but ask yourself what's actually being tested and if it will help you in the least. If you want true "speed," buy an SSD. It'll give you way more of what you're looking for than any 100 drive array could ever hope for.
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