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I take it then your lab is made up of "obselete" equipment? I do understand that it is the IOS that is the "leader of the pack" so to speak but I do not want to pay top dollar for obselete equipment that has limited practical use.I want to get as close as possible to current equipment and I want to be able to find every accessory and expansion card that is asked for. Seeking service on equipment that is still current but is on the list to be retired can be such a challenge.My local retailer priced me 9500.00 for a 5505 ASA a 871 router and a 12 port switch and a CISCO VoIP phone.These retailers will tear the wallet right out of your pants if you give them half a chance.It is so very hard to find a retailer that will work with someone at the student level but I am finding more students wishing to put together a home lab using CISCO equipment because they do not get any hands on training from their community college program. I am fully involved with the CISCO program at my school but I feel CISCO is making a mistake by making it so hard for students to get hands on training with CISCO equipment. I am right at 20 credits from graduation as a Network Administrator and I have never even touched a CISCO router or switch,of any type, and no help setting up my own lab.
well if you want new equipment your gonna pay new cisco prices. if you want to learn dont be so stuck on new. maybe im way wrong here and im sure one will chime in. but a couple of 3640s you can get off ebay super cheap and a couple of 2900 catalyst switches can be had super cheap too. thats why everyone buys older equipment.
    
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The thing is about buying old equipment off ebay is that there is no one to show you how to use it. If it does not work or has just some small configuration issue good luck finding a CISCO tech to pay to figure it out. I see it this way,if you are going to buy off ebay you better already know how to use it and troubleshoot it.
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Which one are you taking CCNA Discovery or Exploration?
Both are two different routes you can take to learn, I myself prefer the Exploration though it is up to.
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Wolf,I take the courses out of Exploration.Perhaps I take this time to ask you why I am presented the choice to go either with Diskovery or Exploration.As you know you get to go back and review your old courses as a benifit for being a CISCO Alumni. All my classes have been through Exploration so I do not understand why the Diskovery option is available. I can say that CISCO has very good online training,I just wish there was audio with the Exploration series I review in. My school devides the CCNA prep up into 4 quarters (I think this is pretty common) I had a lot of trouble with the 2nd quarter and it is not good to just pass any of the quarters,you have to know them from top to bottom.I have a lot of trouble with those big subnetting labs (in the area of number 3.5) and I sure wish someone could work through these labs with me.I understand the theory,it is just that I take forever to complete them (I take too many incorrect paths before I get it right).
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if your stuck with subnetting and need a good site to get some questions you can always goto www.subnettingquestions.com
    
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The thing is about buying old equipment off ebay is that there is no one to show you how to use it.....I see it this way,if you are going to buy off ebay you better already know how to use it and troubleshoot it.
This is what the internet is for, and one of the reasons you're learning to become certified. Learning how to use it and troubleshoot it is the whole point of a cert...

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"If it does not work or has just some small configuration issues"
This is why it's so cheap on eBay, and why there are 100's of sites on the internet that can help you with these kids of problems.
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I will say that if a person's "Plan A" for CISCO technical support is posting questions on the internet,may what ever you look to as a higher power have mercy on you.Simply to see how using the internet in this way works out I have followed some seemingly easy questions like "help me configure my CISCO 871 router" and I was very happy to not be that person asking for help.
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Thorn,how much of your equipment is currently in use (is it end of life gear or even past end of life?). How did you approach the sales personel,did you tell them you were setting up a CCNA lab or did you just call up and say "I want this,and this,and this? How certain were you that you were getting the expansion cards that you need,and other operational gear like power packs (or were you certain that you did not need any expansion cards?) I have a quide about setting up a CCNA lab (it gives 3 levels) but it is from 2008 and so much has changed since then,I question the value of involving myself with such old equipment but can't afford what is currently in use.

It seems that if you are qualified to order what you need for a CCNA lab you already know enough that you do not need a CCNA lab.
I believe all of it is EOL, but you don't need new equipment for a study lab. I do network design for a living so I didn't approach anyone. I bought all my stuff off Ebay one or two pieces at a time. I only have two types of cards. One is a fast ethernet because you need that for vlan support. The other card is just a bunch of serial ports so I can use back to back cables to connect the devices.

My personal opinion is the old stuff is just as good as the new stuff. The main difference is a few bells and whistles, and faster back plane. You don't need a fast back plane for a lab.

Let me do some digging for a webpage on this for you.
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I got a ton of info off this site. The articles about the lab setups are done by Wendell Odom. He has also written some of the Cisco Press books for CCNA and CCNP certification.

http://www.networkworld.com/search/i...2Fnode%2F24916
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Wendel's pimp.. His blogs one of my most frequently visited sites..
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