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Okay, so I have a neighbor that has the neatest wireless setup I've ever seen personally. I'd like to steal his plans, so to speak, and setup mine in a similar fashion, but I have no clue how he did it.

My hardware:
Generic Qwest wireless modem / router (not sure on model, but it has some decent enough generic capabilities as a wireless router).
Asus RT-N16 Wireless N Router (flashed to latest Asus firmware)

His setup:
He has 2x SSID's going on. 1 is his main one, the other is "guest". His "guest" SSID is unsecured wireless, limited bandwidth, but it somehow requires a password to gain access to the internet (the SSID is open though).

I'd like to setup a similar setup to that if I can, so I can have a guest account (with password so people can't steal it), limited bandwidth on it, seperate from my main network if possible. And then my main wireless signal, which is fully secured and ran with the rest of my hardwired network. If I absolutely HAVE TO, I could substitute a wireless password on the SSID instead of the browser based one he has. I'd prefer it to be a browser based password if possible though.

Ideas?
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I used to have this on a Dual band Belkin Router i got.

It Ran one signal at 2.4ghz and the other at 5ghz i think.
So i set the 2.4Ghz for all my Consoles and Phones and Guest Accounts.
And run the computers and IpTV through the 5Ghz one. you can set separate passwords on both. not sure about bandwith limiting though. also for the 5ghz network you need to have computers with a new wifi adapter to connect to it. alot of the old ones only pick up 2.4,

Hope this helps a little.
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Originally Posted by pioneerisloud View Post
Okay, so I have a neighbor that has the neatest wireless setup I've ever seen personally. I'd like to steal his plans, so to speak, and setup mine in a similar fashion, but I have no clue how he did it.

My hardware:
Generic Qwest wireless modem / router (not sure on model, but it has some decent enough generic capabilities as a wireless router).
Asus RT-N16 Wireless N Router (flashed to latest Asus firmware)

His setup:
He has 2x SSID's going on. 1 is his main one, the other is "guest". His "guest" SSID is unsecured wireless, limited bandwidth, but it somehow requires a password to gain access to the internet (the SSID is open though).

I'd like to setup a similar setup to that if I can, so I can have a guest account (with password so people can't steal it), limited bandwidth on it, seperate from my main network if possible. And then my main wireless signal, which is fully secured and ran with the rest of my hardwired network. If I absolutely HAVE TO, I could substitute a wireless password on the SSID instead of the browser based one he has. I'd prefer it to be a browser based password if possible though.

Ideas?
Sounds like a dual band router with QoS enable to traffic shape bandwidth activity and authentication on both.

Also, may not want to have your secure wireless connect as a peer to your wired network.

Trust - wired
SemiTrust - secured wireless,
Untrust - Guest - Shaped to allow internet (80 & whatever you want) limited to specified amount of bandwidth

Hopefully this summarizes
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Sounds like a dual band router with QoS enable to traffic shape bandwidth activity and authentication on both.

Also, may not want to have your secure wireless connect as a peer to your wired network.

Trust - wired
SemiTrust - secured wireless,
Untrust - Guest - Shaped to allow internet (80 & whatever you want) limited to specified amount of bandwidth

Hopefully this summarizes
Well, I've only got the 2 routers. Prefer to not buy more hardware, as I've already bought more than my fair share of modems the last month thanks to Charter.

Is my hardware at ALL capable of doing this? Or should I just deal with one wireless signal and turn the other off? I just thought it'd be cool is all.
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I'm assuming you're curious about this as well huh?
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Might be worth asking him what he uses, potentially could be a fancy router or likely a more involved setup.

Without any additional investment in hardware or a software solution (which you could probably run in VM) it may be difficult to implement this functionality.

I did something similar at our old place with a couple of Cisco routers and 56k WICs. You would place unsecure wireless traffic on a separate VLAN and use a back-to-back 56k link toward the border router and route any traffic from that subnet over that slow link.

Easiest implementation for a password would be simply to use WPA2. Something like RADIUS would be a pain in the ass to set up than it's worth.
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Well, I've only got the 2 routers. Prefer to not buy more hardware, as I've already bought more than my fair share of modems the last month thanks to Charter.

Is my hardware at ALL capable of doing this? Or should I just deal with one wireless signal and turn the other off? I just thought it'd be cool is all.
Sorry what is the specifc hardware you have?

May be possible with a mod to WRT.

Sorry I used to have a similar setup but I had CAT5e installed throughout the house and only connect a wireless for parties so people can check email.
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I think the new Linksys / Cisco wireless routers have a guest option. I have a feeling he has a wireless router that has the guest option built in.
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Okay, well is there an option for me to setup something similar, but just use WPA as the password for guests instead then? Some sort of a way to give them slower internet (preferrably they'd be connected to my Qwest modem).

My hardware is listed above. I can get the model # off my modem / router if need be.
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