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I must of hit an nerve huh.. I don't remember saying the engine should be changed every new release but, you can't sit there and tell me that CoD is not a joke anymore.. CoD was a great game and Activision turned it into a money making pile of poo.. I'm sorry for being bitter.. But, it used to be great with FREE USER MADE MAPS, MODS, and DEDICATED SERVERS.... hey sit there and defend it all you want I know it's crap.. I love how a general statement of MY opinion turns me into a retard.. I think you need to grow up buddy you have your opinion and I have mine no need to make it personal.. And FYI if anyone is being a "kiddie" gamer it's you with your out right personal attacks.. So, next time think before you type mmmkkk..
I didn't make it personal mate, you expressed your opinion which is of course fair, then used it to judge everyone who doesn't share it. And i didnt like that. Plus you were the first to resort to name calling, don't dish it when you can't take it mate.

In other words, if you're gonna start labelling and generalizing people, don't be so shocked when someone bites back hard. Lots of posts lately are simply being posted in the hopes of stirring up trouble and half the time, people posting are either "trying" to be funny or just saying what they think others will wanna hear.

Perhaps you should take your own advice and think first ay
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I didn't make it personal mate, you expressed your opinion which is of course fair, then used it to judge everyone who doesn't share it. And i didnt like that. Plus you were the first to resort to name calling, don't dish it when you can't take it mate.

In other words, if you're gonna start labelling and generalizing people, don't be so shocked when someone bites back hard. Lots of posts lately are simply being posted in the hopes of stirring up trouble and half the time, people posting are either "trying" to be funny or just saying what they think others will wanna hear.

Perhaps you should take your own advice and think first ay
Whatever dude... Yep I'm here to stir up trouble.....
I never once generalized or labeled anyone..... Yes, I used the term console jockey which IMHO isn't name calling but, whatever I'll never win a war of wits with someone so astute as you..
So, to you mate...
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Battlefield has mostly been a PC game - really, outside of Bad Company 1 and 2...the rest of the games were built for and released ONLY on the PC.
Battlefield 2: Modern Combat, and Battlefield: 1943 are also on console.

Also (at an earlier comment) DICE aren't the only studio to develop Battlefield games.
Edited by Lifeshield - 8/6/11 at 6:53pm
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... Valve hasn't changed their engine since 2002? The games engine doesn't need to be changed every new release just to please a couple of fans who put graphics in front of gameplay. Half-life 2 and soure is a perfect example of that.
Except valve doesn't reuse the same old textures over and over again, like the cod franchise does.

They make each successive game look better because they are constantly using newer and higher-res textures. Has less to do with the engine in some cases and more to do with that side.
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For the most part, there isn't a point in comparing the two franchises, period.

Other than both games being in the FPS genre, the gameplay/style and strategy involved are very different when it comes to both games. Battlefield revolves more around teamwork/squad-based gameplay in a much larger, battlefield-scale environment, whereas CoD is built around the more arcadey, twitch-based, arena-esque shooter style.

When it comes to the sales figures, it's also difficult to compare the two. Battlefield has mostly been a PC game - really, outside of Bad Company 1 and 2...the rest of the games were built for and released ONLY on the PC, and obviously, when you compare the number of CoD games that were released cross-platform, it's easy to see where a lot of the sales discrepancies lie (cross-platform releases are always going to outsell PC-only releases).

As it stands, CoD pretty much had no competition in its genre for its style of gameplay, and it was easy and fun enough to establish itself cross-platform within its first couple iterations. And really, name recognition did the rest, whether or not future releases would even actually be better than past releases (see: every game after CoD 4 MW1).

Battlefield doesn't have that same established name in the console world outside of Bad Company 2 - it'll be interesting to see if Activision's "copy-and-paste" CoD-model will still stand firm after Battlefield 3, and if BF3 gives CoD a run for its money and people start to realize that Battlefield really is more of a worthwhile, immersive experience, only then might we see Activision actually attempt to innovate.

But until then, both games are different enough to not really have to be compared. They'll both offer different gameplay experiences and a different pace. I feel like Battlefield is just the more robust game overall; there's so many more variables and features and things to do (and you partly can't blame CoD since Battlefield's goal as a battlefield-shooter inherently means that is has more features/content), and that's really what makes it so much more appealing than every iteration of CoD that feels like the last. Again, MW3 is an established franchise and the sales will reflect that; but BF3 and all the innovation behind it should take a huge chunk from the CoD fanbase if BF3 is done right, as it will then start to have that name recognition that CoD has had for years across all platforms.
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Battlefield 2: Modern Combat, and Battlefield: 1943 are also on console.

Also (at an earlier comment) DICE aren't the only studio to develop Battlefield games.
I purchased COD4 MW and nothing after that from COD

The first Battlefield game I played was BF Vietnam on my grandsons Xbox
I later played BF2 modern combat on same Xbox

Then I found BFV for PC and later got BF2 as a gift for PC
The PC versions are completely diff. from the Xbox versions

now the devs just port the game to PC.

I could comment on BF3 but I agreed to Dice's NDA, sorry
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The PC versions are completely diff. from the Xbox versions

It doesn't change the fact there are more than two Battlefield games on consoles, which was the point I was making. I'm aware they are different games.
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Except valve doesn't reuse the same old textures over and over again, like the cod franchise does.

They make each successive game look better because they are constantly using newer and higher-res textures. Has less to do with the engine in some cases and more to do with that side.
yep thats right and exactly why Source engine is still my overall favourite engine next to UE3.

but believe it or not they do the same thing with whatever engine COD is running, each game has changes to the engine that you can notice however they dont even come close to what valve has achieved with Source.

but i can tell the change from MW - MW2 - BlackOps. dunno what they did to Black Ops but it seems to have gotten worse in some areas yet some things seem better. i think they tried to make it look "older" and didnt get it.

my point was simply that you dont need a new engine in every game and provided the game is fun to play, you dont necessarily need to change anything except subtle changes to reflect a new atmosphere and ambience if there is one. thats my take on it anyway. seems to work so far.
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yep thats right and exactly why Source engine is still my overall favourite engine next to UE3.

but believe it or not they do the same thing with whatever engine COD is running, each game has changes to the engine that you can notice however they dont even come close to what valve has achieved with Source.

but i can tell the change from MW - MW2 - BlackOps. dunno what they did to Black Ops but it seems to have gotten worse in some areas yet some things seem better. i think they tried to make it look "older" and didnt get it.

my point was simply that you dont need a new engine in every game and provided the game is fun to play, you dont necessarily need to change anything except subtle changes to reflect a new atmosphere and ambience if there is one. thats my take on it anyway. seems to work so far.
No need to fix something that isn't broken.
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No need to fix something that isn't broken.
Haha thats it bit of polish now and then never hurts though.
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I think that different people have different expectations of what a new, full-priced, game should be. A lot of people think for $60, they better be getting A LOT of game. New maps, longer single player, fixes of everything wrong with the older game, etc. Other people think that $60 a year for some new maps and weapons is a pretty good deal. It just depends on how you look at it.

For heaven sakes, look at the Madden series. Has everyone just overlooked the fact that, for some reason, that series is incapable of getting any graphical improvments!?
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