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Originally Posted by linkin93 View Post
Herp de derp, we've known this for ages?

I preordered a physical copy yesterday anyway. If EA aren't going to place nice then I don't care for their origin service. Give people a choice.
That is IF you don't still have to use Origin with the physical copy.
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Why Battlefield 3 can't update on Steam, but every other EA game can, is beyond me. Such as the countless DLC's for The Sims 3. Why didn't they pull all of their games off Steam then? *serious question*
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It's not EA's fault, it's the insane license agreement Valve presents to be able to distribute your game.
If anything, Valve has itself to thank for this.



No, just no, Steam has denied them the ability to distribute it through them.
Steam is the only service that enforces insane rules when it comes to how patches and DLC should be delivered to a player.
And for many years, EA complied with those terms. As I said, they suddenly declared these problems when they launched Origin where they didn't for Bad Company 2 with DLCs and updates. Other publishers who use Steam to distribute their titles never even expressed a slight concern about this.

When they keep saying that Steam is the problem without disclosing details such as what exactly Steam does or doesn't allow, how they used to update games through Steam, and who is doing what differently now that both parties are in sudden disagreement, I have my doubts as a consumer. Seeing as no other publisher has complained since, the suspicion of course goes to EA when all they do is keep saying that Steam is limiting their abilities without giving exact details.
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that sucks, origin is freaking slow, and it looks like it was made by a 3 year old for console players, it looks like freaking PSN
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And for many years, EA complied with those terms. As I said, they suddenly declared these problems when they launched Origin where they didn't for Bad Company 2 with DLCs and updates. Other publishers who use Steam to distribute their titles never even expressed a slight concern about this.

When they keep saying that Steam is the problem without disclosing details such as what exactly Steam does or doesn't allow, how they used to update games through Steam, and who is doing what differently now that both parties are in sudden disagreement, I have my doubts as a consumer. Seeing as no other publisher has complained since, the suspicion of course goes to EA when all they do is keep saying that Steam is limiting their abilities without giving exact details.
My question is, however, why you think you even have the slightest entitlement to receive any kind of detailed clarification about why, any of the two distributors have decided not to work with each other anymore.
You're at best a licensor of their software, not a shareholder.

Has it, perhaps, occured to you, that it was Steam that started complaining after EA decided to release Origin, and not the other way around.
Much of what you write can be said about Valve, too. Which has until now, been virtually silent about the ongoing matter.

As one can read here, it was also Valve's decision to remove Crysis 2:

www.destructoid.com/crysis-2-removed-from-steam-update--203799.phtml+Crysis+2+removed+from+steam&cd=5&hl=e n&ct=clnk&source=www.google.com

Here, Valve has also remained unusually silent, offering no ressitance or even an attempt to clarify that it was EA's choice, therefore I conclude, this message as correct and it's Valve being a dick about Origin.

The "unnamed" distribution service, might be Origin, but it means that Steam won't allow EA to release their games, and maybe other games, if they want to release their games through Steam.

Why is Crysis 2 offered on D2D and Impulse? Simply because their ToS is not as restrictive as Valve's is.
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Origin works just fine, it's quick and operates smoothly.

This whole Steam thing has been blown out of proportion.
I agree, personally I use Origin, Steam, and D2D as my sources to buy digital versions of games as whomever has a great deal at the time i'll buy from them.

Origin was overhauled to be more user friendly like steam and I've had no issues ever with it. I've actually had more little issues with steam then I've ever had with Origin or D2D
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that sucks, origin is freaking slow, and it looks like it was made by a 3 year old for console players, it looks like freaking PSN
Origin is slow? And Steam isn't? Bad argument is bad. Origin uses less than 20mb of RAM at any given time for me. Steam? At IDLE? 168mb.


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That is IF you don't still have to use Origin with the physical copy.
Irrelevant. There's no argument there. Bashing EA for doing something Valve has been doing with their games for years is hypocritical.


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Origin works just fine, it's quick and operates smoothly.

This whole Steam thing has been blown out of proportion.
This.
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My question is, however, why you think you even have the slightest entitlement to receive any kind of detailed clarification about why, any of the two distributors have decided not to work with each other anymore.
You're at best a licensor of their software, not a shareholder.

Has it, perhaps, occured to you, that it was Steam that started complaining after EA decided to release Origin, and not the other way around.
Much of what you write can be said about Valve, too. Which has until now, been virtually silent about the ongoing matter.

As one can read here, it was also Valve's decision to remove Crysis 2:

www.destructoid.com/crysis-2-removed-from-steam-update--203799.phtml+Crysis+2+removed+from+steam&cd=5&hl=e n&ct=clnk&source=www.google.com

Here, Valve has also remained unusually silent, offering no ressitance or even an attempt to clarify that it was EA's choice, therefore I conclude, this message as correct and it's Valve being a dick about Origin.

The "unnamed" distribution service, might be Origin, but it means that Steam won't allow EA to release their games, and maybe other games, if they want to release their games through Steam.

Why is Crysis 2 offered on D2D and Impulse? Simply because their ToS is not as restrictive as Valve's is.
[GB] Crysis 2 Removed from Steam NOT because of 'Origin'
[PCgamer] EA : “we’d like to be the worldwide leader in digital publishing"

So... Crysis 2 removed from Steam NOT because of 'Origin' but because they would like to be the worldwide leader in digital publishing, right? Lol.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/06/16/ea...tal-publishing
http://www.giantbomb.com/news/crysis...-updated/3382/
    
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[GB] Crysis 2 Removed from Steam NOT because of 'Origin'
[PCgamer] EA : “we’d like to be the worldwide leader in digital publishing"

So... Crysis 2 removed from Steam NOT because of 'Origin' but because they would like to be the worldwide leader in digital publishing, right? Lol.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/06/16/ea...tal-publishing
http://www.giantbomb.com/news/crysis...-updated/3382/
And somehow, it doesn't occur to you that it might've been Steam whom still decided to remove Crysis 2 because of that statement?

Regardless, I don't understand why people nag this much about something not being released on Steam, you can still add the game to Steam and enjoy all the benefits that the Steam overlay has to offer.
This has more to do with you people being terribly lethargic and crying about the fact you need to install more than one client.

If that's your greatest concern, you've got issues that are beyond curing.
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And somehow, it doesn't occur to you that it might've been Steam whom still decided to remove Crysis 2 because of that statement?

Regardless, I don't understand why people nag this much about something not being released on Steam, you can still add the game to Steam and enjoy all the benefits that the Steam overlay has to offer.
This has more to do with you people being terribly lethargic and crying about the fact you need to install more than one client.

If that's your greatest concern, you've got issues that are beyond curing.
I know, it's ridiculous. However, there's a small percentage who won't buy the game if Origin is required to be running during play...to them, I say...stop using Steam than.
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