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post #101 of 403
"At EA, supporting our players is a top priority"

Oh really EA ??

look at this thread:

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/5620059.page


and later #@! yourself
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post #102 of 403
Origin is slow and clunky, also Origin only displays prices in Euros + Vat for me (Fix please).

191 Games on steam, all purchased from steam. I prefer to have my games organized and automatically updated. I use the forums, community features, video manager, friends list, everything.

Why would one switch from such an excellent service for just one game.

No steam, no buy. Very simple (unless it hits $25 then maybe).
Edited by heshere2001 - 8/6/11 at 3:03pm
post #103 of 403
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Originally Posted by Xeio View Post
Part C applies to any individual subscriptions you have, those are governed by your entire account (if your account is terminated, all active subscriptions are terminated). You missed part of what I bolded, see the "or" below, the italics are the two things they (or you) can terminate.

"Either you or Valve has the right to terminate or cancel your Account or a particular Subscription at any time"

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You are reading the agreement wrong, Valve may and is capable of prohibiting access to your account.
The termination clause, simply states that Valve may, but is not obliged, to give you a partial refund or replacement product, the bolded part clearly states they may cancel your account at ANY time.

There is no way that this can be interpreted differently, 'any' is an absolute and is not subject to interpretation in different context, especially not if it serves the role of an adjective for the noun 'time'.

Any time, means 'always'.

And that, is the problem with digital distribution, your association with Steam is based on a license scheme, in other words, you do not purchase the game, you purchase a license to be able to install and use that particular piece of software.
By creating a Steam account, you accept the ToS that Valve commands, which states that Valve, for whatever reason, may cancel your account at any time. Either partially, or as a whole.


I'm a law graduate, so I think I can tell you guys are not reading it properly.

The first sentence is just a generic clause which needs clarification, which is what part A, B and C do; those are the only cases where they or you can do it (in the case of you, it's easier and the basic answer is given right away in that first paragraph, but that is not a good way to write a contract, it should have been included within part B). You have to read it as a whole.

On the other hand "at any time" does mean "always" in the chronological sense. There is no time limit on which they can cancel your account. BUT it does not mean without any specific reason.

That is a big difference and that was what I was talking about.
Edited by tpi2007 - 8/6/11 at 3:21pm
 
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Bratty kids and internet Drama Queens will whine and cry and yell boycott until release day....
and then they'll shut up and play BF3.
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Bratty kids and internet Drama Queens will whine and cry and yell boycott until release day....
and then they'll shut up and play BF3.

I complained a lot about Crysis 2.. and guess what ? I still haven't bought it. So, don't generalize.
 
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I complained a lot about Crysis 2.. and guess what ? I still haven't bought it. So, don't generalize.
Crysis 2 ??? So what... I have it and dont play it.
BF3....the sequel to BF2 !!!

Missing out on this game over something so petty goes to show how dumb and stubborn some people really are.
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Crysis 2 ??? So what... I have it and dont play it.
BF3....the sequel to BF2 !!!

Missing out on this game over something so petty goes to show how dumb and stubborn some people really are.


How do you know if the game is any good ? Are you in the Alpha testing group ?

I'll pass the hype. I'll wait and see what it actually turns out to be once it's finished.

You should do the same. Apparently you went with the Crysis 2 hype and were disillusioned with it.
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Herp de derp, we've known this for ages?

I preordered a physical copy yesterday anyway. If EA aren't going to place nice then I don't care for their origin service. Give people a choice.
uhm, didn't they state that the phyiscal copy will be like MW2, where all the disk has is steam ( in this case origin) and it will make you download it?

im not sure, but either way, im sure you're going to have to use origin...
post #109 of 403
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Apparently you went with the Crysis 2 hype and were disillusioned with it.
Wrong....the reason I bought it was because I got it for $26.99 from CDKeysHere. At that price my curiousity got the best of me. I was going to wait until it was on sale for under $20 before I bought it. Never really been a Crysis fan. I've spent more time benchmarking with their games than I've spent playing Crysis + Crysis Warhead combined. Heck...I havent even downloaded the Crysis 2 DX11 patch since I've only played Crysis 2 for all of 30 minutes
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How do you know if the game is any good ? Are you in the Alpha testing group ?

I'll pass the hype. I'll wait and see what it actually turns out to be once it's finished.

You should do the same. Apparently you went with the Crysis 2 hype and were disillusioned with it.
Wait, Is your refusal to pre-order/buy about the quality of the game or Steam?

If it's both, you're weren't going to buy it day 1 anyway.

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And there are people that complain and companies hear them.

Did you know Microsoft wanted to limit Windows 7 starter to a max of 3 simultaneously open applications ? Oh yes, they did. But the consumers said what they thought. Guess what, Microsoft dropped that "feature".
That's one company changing their own policies.
EA and Valve are "competing" companies that have different policies. Not as easy to change.
Ea shouldn't submit to Valve just as much Valve shouldn't submit to EA. They need to compromise, which takes time.
Edited by WorldExclusive - 8/6/11 at 3:52pm
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