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Sounds an awful lot like even boxed copies might require Origin then. Looks like a no buy for me then (will wait and see how boxed copies work).
 
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Originally Posted by Raven Dizzle View Post
THIS. OMG. I don't understand why the steam hammer legion army doesn't include this in their already flawed arguments. "EA IS JUST TRYING TO PROFIT! IT'S NOT STEAMS FAULT!" - Yea, ok...than explain why it's on every other DD platform out there...and explain why there are still ANY EA games on steam at all.
You're late to the party, this has already been discussed too.

http://www.overclock.net/video-game-...l#post14488113

http://www.overclock.net/video-game-...l#post14488625

as far as why there are any EA games on steam at all:

1. because they don't have new DLC or they DO have new DLC but EA seems to have no problem with it being on Steam ( Sims 3 )

2. B/c taking games off steam hurt sales. Anti-profit.



Can ANYONE taking EA's side please explain to me if their reason for taking these games off steam is ONLY b/c of steam wanting to sell DLC, why then did EA give the Sims 3 DLC the green light for sale on Steam? Seems incredibly contradictory.
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Originally Posted by Raven Dizzle View Post
Invalid argument. Valve does the same thing with Valve games. Saying another company can't is hypocritical and asinine.
Steam is a lot more useful than Origin. It's also a lot more efficient than Origin. Valve is also a lot more trustworthy than EA. Plus, having more than 1 platform is a pain.

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Good luck trying to reg a USED copy of BF3 for PC lol

Have fun NOT playing BF3 while the rest of us are.

PS: Its not being released on steam due to EA and Steam unable to come to an agreement over DLC. Its being released on MANY other digital distribution platforms.
I'll play a used console copy. My brother already preordered it so I will just play it on the 360. It's a downgrade from the PC but it's the cost of taking a stand for what you believe in. I've done it many times before and this time is no different.

Plus, it's not like there isn't anything else coming out this year. I've got Forza 4, Dead Island, Skyrim, Saints Row 3, LA Noire, and Torchlight II to look forward to this year.
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No, but implying that Origin, in REALITY is FASTER than Steam, calling it slow is irrelevant. Plus, it's fine even if you only have 4 gigs of ram, which you SHOULD at least have if you have any place in a BATTLEFIELD 3 thread.
What the hell are you going on about?
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Herp de derp, we've known this for ages?

I preordered a physical copy yesterday anyway. If EA aren't going to place nice then I don't care for their origin service. Give people a choice.
Actually, installing the physical copy requires the installation of Origin. I think it's under the systems requirements.
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What the hell are you going on about?
Yea I failed there. Meant to say "slower". It's late.
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This really makes sense.. Im not for it, but ill buy the game regardless. Most likely from D2D cause i dont want to support Origin.

This is a good way to fight the thuggery of a big company. Its a money grab for Steam, but they have their reasons too.
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Originally Posted by SoulThief View Post
Sorry, my comment might've been a tad too, offensive, my apologies.

What I fail to understand, however, is that fact that because Valve dropped the game for an "undisclosed" reason. It is EA that you turn to for some kind of clarification.

I am not debating whether or not you have a right, as a potential customer, no doubt to ask for clarification, however you're turning to the wrong company here.

And yes, if a supermarket drops a product for an unknown reason I turn to the supermarket to ask why.
It is because EA constantly put the blame on Steam that I wish to find out what exactly happen. All I have seen is EA pointing the finger at Steam, but the inconsistencies with their story (updating BC2 through Steam is okay, but updating BF3 wouldn't) certainly raised tons of suspicion. It's only natural that customers would want to know the details from the side that's quick to point the finger. I would too ask the supermarket why a product has been dropped, if the manufacturer hasn't already made inconsistent accusations.

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Riiiight, so let me get this straight: Supermarket = Steam.
Supermarket decides to drop product.
But it's the manufacturer of said product that needs to answer for it? Just. Wow. Seriously. Wow.

EA has already responded on the matter, saying it was for DLC and Patch restrictions, Valve has yet to respond on anything, but EA is the boogey-man? Really?
Given how EA has always managed to update their games on Steam and how they're suddenly saying that Steam is limiting their abilities to do what they used to do when there has been zero change in Steam's policy, why do you find it surprising that consumers start questioning EA?

Also, I never once said that they need to answer for it. It is their right to choose whether or not they want to provide clarification just as it's a consumer's right to choose whether or not to buy the product based on lack of available information.

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So, in this day and age, it doesn't matter that the product you're buying is exactly the same, regardless if it's released through D2D, Physical media or Impulse, no because a game is not released on Steam one decides to partially-boycott the developer?

Do as you please, your logic completely elludes me and I have not the pleasure nor the time to try and get a reasonable argument out of your comments. As much as I am defending EA you are defending Steam, and neither of us has any merrits to base our claims on.

Who is at fault? -- Nobody knows, but the error is simply not dedicated to one side, both parties play their role in this predicament and EA, has been the only one to give some sort of response.
Where did I say I'd boycott the developer? I said I'd boycott anti-competitive tactics that exist in the PC market, whereas the console market does not have this problem. EA and DICE will still get my money, but not via the method they originally hoped for. Besides, with their recent track record of releasing sequels that haven't quite lived up to the marketing, I honestly don't mind waiting to see user reviews and gameplay. I was already disappointed when Bad Company 2 failed to deliver the fun singleplayer experience that Bad Company 1 provided. Medal of Honor also didn't quite live up to the originals, and the same could be said about Dragon Age 2.


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I gave in a preordered the game today, I may have 200+ games on steam, but a lot of my time is spent playing BC2. In my mind, it doesn't matter what platform the game is on, I'll buy it.
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Guess I'll be missing BF3....oh well, would've been fun. But I'll be passing on all CoD games now too tho. Maybe Minecraft will keep me happy, lol!
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