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i know its been said time and time again, but i think in the midst of all the discussion it keeps getting looked over.

you DO realise, to all of us buying the hard/retail copy, that we will still have to download and install Origin in order to register the game?

...

just be aware of this guys, seems like the people saying "i'll just buy the retail version coz i dont wanna support origin" arnt getting this.

its just like a GFWL title. even when implemented into Steam, and bought from a shop or direct from the Steam client, it still requires GFWL to be activated properly if you wanna go online or even save your game in the instance of GFWL.

RE5, Dead Rising 2, GTAIV to name a few.

its been confirmed - BATTLEFIELD 3 REQUIRES ORIGIN TO REGISTER AND PLAY THE GAME. theres also been word that Origin is not required to be active or even running in the background when playing, nor is BF3 needed to be launched through Origin. but you must still have Origin in order to register your copy.
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Reading comments on this topic on this forum and others is just laughable. I know for a fact that people will complain and state that they will not buy the game, but will probably cave in sooner or later. It is like how people boycotted Left 4 Dead 2 and Modern Warfare 2, but they ended up buying the game. A famous picture is the screenshot of the anti-Modern Warfare 2 steam page where the the members are playing the game they swore to not buy. In the end, I couldn't care less about this issue because I am pumped for this game and can't wait to get my hands on it.
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its been confirmed - BATTLEFIELD 3 REQUIRES ORIGIN TO REGISTER AND PLAY THE GAME. theres also been word that Origin is not required to be active or even running in the background when playing, nor is BF3 needed to be launched through Origin. but you must still have Origin in order to register your copy.
Looks like I'm not buying then. Saves me $50. Kind of sad, I was looking forward to it too. And no, if I say I'm not buying a game, I'm seriously not buying it. I still don't own Crysis 2 or any COD game after W@W.
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Well, as PC gamers make up the majority of Battlefield players. You have to admit, this is a bit of a striking blow to the Battlefield community.

Sure, maybe the hardcore would've bought it on Origin out first, and then the casuals or the cheapos would come in and get it on Steam the following fortnight.

I for one, gotta say that's Battlefield over for me, I'm not going to pay full price for a game if I can't play it on the service of my personal choice, which is Steam. I'll stick to Bad Company 2, at least it has a semi-working friends system ingame.

Though I also admit I'm not sure as EA are being extremely random with these unofficial, what I can only call 'jilts' of pressure on the Steam community, as to what is actually happening. What I want to see are official statements on EA and Steams part, then we can actually know what is happening.
Edited by Reflux - 8/7/11 at 2:55am
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EA wants to do something with bf3 that valve's conditions for it being on steam do not allow...EA might be a big evil "Corporation" in your eyes that lies, threatens, steals, etc...but valve is a Corporation too that has basically told EA "our way or the highway", so EA did what any child would do in this situation, they took their ball and went home.

i would honestly hate to consider that innovation and creativity is stippled due to valve's terms for steam and i would hate to think EA is just doing this to promote a unpopular service, but i also think lots aren't seeing the whole picture as they are blinded by brand loyalty here. personally i think valve is the one in the wrong here, as they are trying to force developers from using ingame things (such as patches/updates/dlc/stores/etc) to continue to rely on their own service...lots here have accused EA of doing this only for greed...but only a handful have questioned valve's motive for it being that way.
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EA wants to do something with bf3 that valve's conditions for it being on steam do not allow...EA might be a big evil "Corporation" in your eyes that lies, threatens, steals, etc...but valve is a Corporation too that has basically told EA "our way or the highway", so EA did what any child would do in this situation, they took their ball and went home.

i would honestly hate to consider that innovation and creativity is stippled due to valve's terms for steam and i would hate to think EA is just doing this to promote a unpopular service, but i also think lots aren't seeing the whole picture as they are blinded by brand loyalty here. personally i think valve is the one in the wrong here, as they are trying to force developers from using ingame things (such as patches/updates/dlc/stores/etc) to continue to rely on their own service...lots here have accused EA of doing this only for greed...but only a handful have questioned valve's motive for it being that way.
You make a very interesting point at the end there mate, the whole thing about EA being considered greedy and solely to blame here.

It's interesting, if EA is greedy for wanting to keep in-app purchases to themselves, is valve not greedy for refusing to allow EA to use their service unles they get a cut of the action?

Pendulum swings both ways.

I'm also curious, those refusing to buy bf3 now, do you own and play any GFWL games? Coz it's the exact same thing, requiring another service and activation to be present before being able to play the game.

At the end of the day I don't think anyone really gives a crap that you won't buy since you're only causing yourself to miss out on what could be and I believe will be an epic game, I personally just find it confusing and even slightly disappointing that people so readily take this stance towards something, when in reality it really is such a minor thing that will have no affect whatsoever on the core aspect of any game...gameplay.
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I'm also curious, those refusing to buy bf3 now, do you own and play any GFWL games? Coz it's the exact same thing, requiring another service and activation to be present before being able to play the game.
I ordered BF3 but I hate parts in it because it's low-tech developed (console port/dumb developed/degraded development etc etc).

I have Steam and Origin, but I hate GFWL because it's related to the thing I hate the most.
Not only because it's a console thing, but it's linked to the console I hate the most as well...
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I ordered BF3 but I hate parts in it because it's low-tech developed (console port/dumb developed/degraded development etc etc).

I have Steam and Origin, but I hate GFWL because it's related to the thing I hate the most.
Not only because it's a console thing, but it's linked to the console I hate the most as well...
Heh, you don't half talk some silly stuff. You're making judgements based off the alpha...?

In all honesty though, I wouldn't buy it Ecchi, I don't think you'll like it. Please don't buy it
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You make a very interesting point at the end there mate, the whole thing about EA being considered greedy and solely to blame here.

It's interesting, if EA is greedy for wanting to keep in-app purchases to themselves, is valve not greedy for refusing to allow EA to use their service unles they get a cut of the action?

Pendulum swings both ways.

I'm also curious, those refusing to buy bf3 now, do you own and play any GFWL games? Coz it's the exact same thing, requiring another service and activation to be present before being able to play the game.

At the end of the day I don't think anyone really gives a crap that you won't buy since you're only causing yourself to miss out on what could be and I believe will be an epic game, I personally just find it confusing and even slightly disappointing that people so readily take this stance towards something, when in reality it really is such a minor thing that will have no affect whatsoever on the core aspect of any game...gameplay.
can't say i've used gfwl before, i think i had to register an account for gta 4, but that wasn't purchased on steam anyways.

in the past i've used impulse, d2d, steam and probably others to buy games...i myself personally have no preference when it comes to it, wherever i can get the best deal will get my money...
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Heh, you don't half talk some silly stuff. You're making judgements based off the alpha...?

In all honesty though, I wouldn't buy it Ecchi, I don't think you'll like it. Please don't buy it
Oh I don't mean to bash the Alpha since, well Alpha is like a fetus-game compared to BETA that is an early born game.

But hoping this would be a pure PC game and all then to see it reduced to BC2/console gameplay kinda set some of my grinding gears spinning.

I have to buy it because I have to see if DICE will make a game worth upgrading from BF1942 and BF2.
To bad they have a bloody tumor in their butt (Activision) now.
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