Originally Posted by SoulThief
But, since DICE is part of EA, how will your trust towards EA improve if it's released on STEAM.
If EA decides to close the master server, regardless, if it's on STEAM you're screwed anyway. Regardless of what distributor is being used, you will still have to deal with EA, one way or another.
The only comment that holds any merrits is the fact you prefer STEAM for convenience, that's your right, and not debatable.
Simply refusing to purchase a game because of a switch in your preferred distributor seems very weird to us, who don't see a distributor as a selling point for a game.
You haven't been reading the last posts, have you ?
I'll recap my own posts and others' posts so far:
You have to make a distinction here: some people will not buy it at all, others admit the possibility, but will do it at retail, thus avoiding Origin as a digital store.
1. You can still buy it at retail, and use Origin solely as an activation method; that way they cannot legally (otherwise it would be a fraud) count a retail sale as a digital sale; and you still get to support DICE, while at the same time:
a) Not have the eventual problem of EA not giving you your game if you were to buy it digitally through Origin, like has happened to Pionnerisloud;
b) Not having the problem of them revoking any download right or claiming expiring licensing rights, because you have a hard copy of the game;
c) you don't have any download problems
- related to downloading itself or language related, or even currency related (charging you in Euros even though you might be in South America, for example) if you are in / working in another country;
2. If it were to come to Steam, you'd have the additional benefits:
a) EA would improve their reputation by not forcing you to buy DLC's through Origin, which in the cases I meant above in 1. c) might actually mean the difference between being able to buy them or not;
b) Steam lets you download games without a time limit or whenever they update their content delivery engine
; they don't remove games like EA;
c) Steam will not close your account if you don't use it for two years like Origin. That would be the same as saying that if you chose to ride a bicycle for two years, the car company will collect you car because you haven't used it. I even admit them disabling your account after that period, with you paying a fee to reestablish it, but like it is now you lose your games! How on earth is that even remotely fair ? If I buy a retail copy of a game I'll have it forever.
As to your argument of EA closing the master server, I suppose BF3 wil have dedicated servers for online gaming right ? And even if you or a third party can't host your own servers, this problem of deactivating servers after a few years is not exclusive to EA and is really not the main reason for not trusting them because if there is enough audience playing the game, they will keep the servers running; anyway you will always be able to play single player.
The problem with your argument is that you are referring to this as merely a switch in distributor, which in fact it is not; as EA say themselves, they want to build an ongoing direct relationship with their customers.
This it not the same thing as you going to a retail store and buying a retail copy and never going back to that store again. So, if EA wants to establish an ongoing direct relationship with you, they better prove themselves trustworthy.
And to my best knowledge, they are off to a horrible start. Origin is still in Beta and nobody knows if it will be ready by the time they release BF3. How are you supposed to so willingly trust a company with EA's track record
like this ?Edited by tpi2007 - 8/9/11 at 12:41pm