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I thought we knew that the issue was because EA wants to be able to sell to players directly in game and doing an end run around steam making a percentage of the sales like they do for all other DLC. For example, when you buy the BFBC2 DLC you do so in the steam store, not in-game.

EA has to give Steam a % of each sale done that way.

If you can buy the DLC right in-game from EA, then steam gets no money from that sale.

BF3 is going to be a big seller and there is no doubt EA is looking to capitalize off of this but I think it will eventually backfire on them because you have to give the customers what they want over the long run.

EA is spinning this as "steam having unreasonable restrictions, etc" but in reality they just want more of the pie. Whether or not this is "right" will be up to consumers to decide.

As for me, I'd rather have it on steam.
Edited by gsa700 - 8/6/11 at 10:45am
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I'm not a steam fanboy. I just dont' want my games being all around the place. Which is I only want a single system, be it steam or origin
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I'm glad, hopefully it'll force Steam into more competitive prices for new releases. I want to see other developers use Origin for their new games.

To be honest, I don't blame EA. Valve is a competitor and when a lot of your client communication has to go through their system first, it's not ideal. It's bad for marketing purposes and advertising.

I honestly think EA did the only thing they could (in a business sense).
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Originally Posted by Raven Dizzle View Post
Origin is slow? And Steam isn't? Bad argument is bad. Origin uses less than 20mb of RAM at any given time for me. Steam? At IDLE? 168mb.
You probably have 10x more games in the list on Steam as well.
[/QUOTE]I downloaded BFBC2 again since I had the Disc verification version before since I didn't want to tie it to "I don't listen to costumers Steam".
And it downloaded at my Internets max speed from the first 10 seconds until it was done so Origin is indeed not slow.
Steam on the other hand can be slow some times but I have just tried one game so it's not really comparable but heck, Origin is just released and getting full speed while countless new members do the same I'd say Steam is up for some fight if they are to stay.
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Originally Posted by USFORCES View Post
I prefer origin over steam, It's nice you don't have to launch orgin to play unlike steam... Even steam offline mode ask you every time if you want to start it in offline mode and still runs in the back ground.
That is IF you are allowed to play the game... Since it needs to be fully updated to be playable.
Even HL2 needed to update when I tried running it in offline mode (Can't be played at this time)...
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Valve does not comment on these issues like they have in the past. EA's PR department is just saying things to make their company look good.

It is no coincidence that EA is "violating" Steam's policy as an excuse to make their games Origin exclusive. EA wants to compete with Steam. This whole PR sugar-coating is just insulting to anyone with intelligence.

EA...just say you want declare war against Steam. These excuses make you look bad.
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Originally Posted by Riou View Post
It is no coincidence that EA is "violating" Steam's policy as an excuse to make their games Origin exclusive.
BF3 is not origin exclusive. It's just not on steam. That's the only service affected because of valve's policies.
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OH NO, heaven forbid that I have to click another icon with my fat gamer fingers to buy/launch a game
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EA whines over what makes Steam great. Go figure.
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It's not EA's fault, it's the insane license agreement Valve presents to be able to distribute your game.
If anything, Valve has itself to thank for this.



No, just no, Steam has denied them the ability to distribute it through them.
Steam is the only service that enforces insane rules when it comes to how patches and DLC should be delivered to a player.
I realize we're 10 pages deep in this and since you're on page 1 you probably have 20 responses......but REALLY!? INSANE?! That's so over-the-top it's ridiculous. There's nothing insane about Steam wanting the ability to sell xyz's DLC through their stores if they sell xyz's game.

For reference, I'll bring up my DLCs with Fallout 3. Even with the game crashing bugs and the other things that made FO3 virtually unplayable, i loved it. So the first DLC came out, but lo' and behold, i had to DL it through GFWL. Ok, no biggie i guess. So i have to create a new login to do it.....ok annoying but whatever. Ok now they're telling me I can't just BUY the game, i have to buy POINTS first so I can exchange it for a game. NOW i see the game is 800 points but they only sell points in increments of 500 or 1000, FORCING me to overpay. Ok, whatever, i exchanged my money for worthless monopoply money to exchange for the DLC. NOW the stupid DLC isn't downloading in the right area and I need to move it....

I was so put off by my experience I didn't buy anymore DLCs for Fallout 3 and just waited until the Fallout 3: GOTY edition came out. EA-Bioware's site is the same. If i wasn't head-over-heels in love with Mass Effect 2, i would have done the same thing with that game too.

Steam is doing the same thing that MS is with xbox or Sony is with ps3 except buyers still have an option of going through other DD's or the company directly AND Steam does not charge for updates and patches. The reality here is that EA does not want a major competitor when it comes to PC DLC, and now we're seeing what all this migration to DLC has really been about: Pure profit by eliminating the middle-man. A game probably costs $10-20 mil per platform, sells for $60 and they probably take a 25% haircut off the top for shipping/retailer cost. A DLC probably costs $1-2 mil per platform, sells for $10-$15 and 100% of the revenue goes to the dev.

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Originally Posted by Raven Dizzle View Post
The way I see it, Valve hasn't said a word. Sounds like the action of a guilty party to me. Stop being a fanboy.
If anything it sounds like your bias at work affecting your perception.
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"Battlefield 3 will not be available on Steam as the service restricts our ability to directly support players," an EA spokesperson told Kotaku. "The service limits our ability to deliver patches and downloadable content directly to players
Ummm... No. It seriously doesn't. Try again EA. I'll probably go out of my way to find a cheaper copy just in spite of this claim now. You sure didn't have a problem "directly supporting players" in BC2.
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