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Think before you type. It has nothing to do with making gamers angry, it has to do with Valve taking a leap into an unproven market with a completely unproven product and being a true pioneer in that field. 7 years later now that the market is lucrative, bustling and taking the lion's share of PC sales, NOW EA wants to get in.

Its the typical, 'local inventor takes a major risk and succeeds, building up an entire market and a corporation jumps in to try and take over only after the market has been sufficiently built up.'
This makes even less sense. Companies can't offer new digital delivery systems? Even though there's already a bunch of them out there?
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I have tried Origin, damn, Origin is awesome, it does not bog down your system as much and runs smoothly, on the other hand, when i launch a valve game from steam and connect to a server it tells me that steam connection has failed, f steam, besides, I just got an email saying that Origin has select games at $4.99, most games they have and thats pretty cool.
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My response: Meh, doesn't change anything except for those casual gamers. (The ones that believe full games will be on D.D. only. When fact is, that will never happen.)
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This makes even less sense. Companies can't offer new digital delivery systems? Even though there's already a bunch of them out there?
Quit throwing a bunch of mundane questions at me. Do yourself a favor and try to answer your own questions before you ask them. I hate this internet fad of throwing out endless waves of mindless questions that are easily answered by those who asked them. I hate this ADD generation. When you debate your job isn't to overwhelm the other side with mindless questions, it's to find the questions that have no logical answer. Why do YOU think that people would be resistant to a new service in an already saturated market?

Why do YOU think that, with EA's track record of 'losing' customer's games through their DD service, their TOS that declare they can delete the game from their servers after a year and their recent removal of games from their DD that are as little as 1.5 yrs old, that people would be resistant to EA's DD?

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I have tried Origin, damn, Origin is awesome, it does not bog down your system as much and runs smoothly, on the other hand, when i launch a valve game from steam and connect to a server it tells me that steam connection has failed, f steam, besides, I just got an email saying that Origin has select games at $4.99, most games they have and thats pretty cool.
LoL Steam doesn't bog anything down, this isn't 2005.

Steam can operate offline.

Your steam connection has nothing to do with a game you launched unless that game is using Steamworks ( aka, valve games )
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If they wanted to eliminate the middle man then why do retail and Direct2Drive. Besides they're losing money because most of the people I know are buying retail instead of Steam. Anyway even though BF2 is my favorite game of all time I'll probably just move the the Mac platform considering this was the only game that was going to tie me to Windows. No buy.

I'll wait for Steam or the $5 bin. Unless I can magically activate all my Steam games on Origin. And I mean all 62 of them.
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Honestly, most people probably blame/dislike EA probably because they have pulled some bad marketing ploys to make money cough*dantes inferno*cough, but also they havent been very "gamer" friendly sometimes(not all), but I have no doubt if origin sales dont go smoothly they will put it on steam, and if they dont I will buy it on some other service (plus by than patches will have delt with any bugs by than) so a win win scenario
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EA didn't remove the games, Valve did. Get your facts straight.
Valve made gamers angry first, but then gamers accepted it so it's ok... but now that EA is doing the same thing, it's bad mojo? Guess we just have to wait till gamers are ok with Origin too!

I don't have to get my facts straight, that wasn't the point of the discussion. The other poster was asking why EA wouldn't remove their games altogether from Steam in order to promote Origin, I was answering and explaining that that doesn't make sense.

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This makes even less sense. Companies can't offer new digital delivery systems? Even though there's already a bunch of them out there?
They surely can. The problem is EA's approach to it.

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I have tried Origin, damn, Origin is awesome, it does not bog down your system as much and runs smoothly, on the other hand, when i launch a valve game from steam and connect to a server it tells me that steam connection has failed, f steam, besides, I just got an email saying that Origin has select games at $4.99, most games they have and thats pretty cool.

What are you talking about ? I have Steam installed on my Netbook (for older games) and it works fine. And sales ? Steam has that too. If your connection is bad, have you tried changing the server you are connecting to deliver updates ?
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Quit throwing a bunch of mundane questions at me. Do yourself a favor and try to answer your own questions before you ask them. I hate this internet fad of throwing out endless waves of mindless questions that are easily answered by those who asked them. Why do YOU think that people would be resistant to a new service in an already saturated market?
I honestly don't know. I know there's a lot of people that think valve can do no wrong, even though steam is obviously not perfect. Hey, I like systems with less DRM involved, I must be a terrible gamer or something, oh well.
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Why do YOU think that, with EA's track record of 'losing' customer's games through their DD service, their TOS that declare they can delete the game from their servers after a year and their recent removal of games from their DD that are as little as 1.5 yrs old, that people would be resistant to EA's DD?
I've seen the ToS for that, and as I recall it was 2 years, and only if you didn't log into your account at all, not individual games (I still have Spore on my EA account, and I haven't touched that since at latest October/November of 2008). Hey, did you happen to know that Steam can also terminate your account for any reason without refund according to their terms? Amazing, I know, it's almost like legaleses is there to protect a company's stuff
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If they wanted to eliminate the middle man then why do retail and Direct2Drive. Besides they're losing money because most of the people I know are buying retail instead of Steam. Anyway even though BF2 is my favorite game of all time I'll probably just move the the Mac platform considering this was the only game that was going to tie me to Windows. No buy.

I'll wait for Steam or the $5 bin. Unless I can magically activate all my Steam games on Origin. And I mean all 62 of them.


Direct2Drive is just a store, it's not an all-in-one solution like Steam or Origin. Add to that the completely different marketshare D2D has, and EA does not have a reason to leave everyone out (which also provides them some escape route in case people don't use Origin to buy games).
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If they wanted to eliminate the middle man then why do retail and Direct2Drive. Besides they're losing money because most of the people I know are buying retail instead of Steam. Anyway even though BF2 is my favorite game of all time I'll probably just move the the Mac platform considering this was the only game that was going to tie me to Windows. No buy.

I'll wait for Steam or the $5 bin. Unless I can magically activate all my Steam games on Origin. And I mean all 62 of them.
Why do retail? Really? Again can you guys stop throwing out these mundane questions without first trying to answer them yourself? Your job is to STUMP the opposition with a question, not to overwhelm them with a bunch of nonsense.

If they're going to avoid steam, which already rivals all retail/brick & mortar in terms of sales, it would be sales suicide to remove retail too. That would be too much to overcome. They want to bring people to Origin USING retail copies.
    
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