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In the original post, you said it was idling at 1.000V. I'm confused. Can I assume that it was a Freudian Slip and that you meant to type 1.248V?

Is Offset Mode still enabled?

Also, are you going by CPU-Z?
Apologies I had put the bios back to auto mode as I'm not that keen on running at 1.328v. Basically when the motherboard is in auto mode it sets the CPU voltage to 1.248v, which is already pretty high, however I do quite a lot of less intensive work so I would like the idle voltage of 1.000v to save a little heat and power. I was advised to put the CPU mode to offset, once this is complete the voltage ups to 1.328von load, the idle goes to 1.000 but my load voltage is way more so I'm not really gaining anything.

I am using CPU-Z

The interesting part is that if if I set my ram to 1366 in offset mode then the voltage stays at 1.272, as soon as I set my ram frequency to 1866 it pumps the voltage on load to 1.328v. However both are more than the 1.248-1.256 I get on auto without the lower idle voltages.
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Apologies I had put the bios back to auto mode as I'm not that keen on running at 1.328v. Basically when the motherboard is in auto mode it sets the CPU voltage to 1.248v, which is already pretty high, however I do quite a lot of less intensive work so I would like the idle voltage of 1.000v to save a little heat and power. I was advised to put the CPU mode to offset, once this is complete the voltage ups to 1.328von load, the idle goes to 1.000 but my load voltage is way more so I'm not really gaining anything.

I am using CPU-Z

The interesting part is that if if I set my ram to 1366 in offset mode then the voltage stays at 1.272, as soon as I set my ram frequency to 1866 it pumps the voltage on load to 1.328v. However both are more than the 1.248-1.256 I get on auto without the lower idle voltages.
Then I recommend experimenting with different CPU Offset Voltages. Start with +0.005V and then work your way up. If +0.005V is too high, then switch to the minus sign so that it results in -0.005V and then work your way down.

A CPU Offset Voltage of "Auto" seems to be poorly programmed because it uses way more voltage than is necessary.
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Then I recommend experimenting with different CPU Offset Voltages. Start with +0.005V and then work your way up. If +0.005V is too high, then switch to the minus sign so that it results in -0.005V and then work your way down.

A CPU Offset Voltage of "Auto" seems to be poorly programmed because it uses way more voltage than is necessary.
I have had a go at changing the offset but to be honest it just ends up with blue screens and reboots which is not ideal to say the least. I thought 1.248 was high for a stock voltage but 1.328 just seems excessive. I don't see why I should have to mess around with the bios to get normal stock features without excessive voltages.

Where do you think I would stand with Asus on this matter, I have had the board since monday.
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I have had a go at changing the offset but to be honest it just ends up with blue screens and reboots which is not ideal to say the least. I thought 1.248 was high for a stock voltage but 1.328 just seems excessive. I don't see why I should have to mess around with the bios to get normal stock features without excessive voltages.

Where do you think I would stand with Asus on this matter, I have had the board since monday.
The reason for the BSODs is likely due to have C3 or C6 set to Enabled. So, I recommend either having them at Auto or Disabled - probably disabled.

Or in EZ mode, just click that big Normal button in the middle - that is, if you just want stock.
Edited by TwoCables - 8/6/11 at 1:41pm
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The reason for the BSODs is likely due to have C3 or C6 set to Enabled. So, I recommend either having them at Auto or Disabled - probably disabled.
When I have just tried they were set to auto again as I reset the settings. From my point of view running the CPU at 1.328 seems like it might have an impact on the lifespan of the CPU. I would just like it to run at a more normal voltage and also lower vcore at idle but getting blue screens makes me very nervous.
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When I have just tried they were set to auto again as I reset the settings. From my point of view running the CPU at 1.328 seems like it might have an impact on the lifespan of the CPU. I would just like it to run at a more normal voltage and also lower vcore at idle but getting blue screens makes me very nervous.
1.328V is actually very harmless. The max is about 1.525V and the 24/7 max is about 1.425V.

When you say that you reset the settings, what do you mean exactly?
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1.328V is actually very harmless. The max is about 1.525V and the 24/7 max is about 1.425V.

When you say that you reset the settings, what do you mean exactly?
I just meant that I had put the speedstep settings back to auto, does the chip select it's vcore or the motherboard on auto. I thought the default vcore was 1.224v for an I72600k. Looking around the Internet I can see that people are running at 4.5ghz with 1.328v and my motherboard sets that at stock.
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I just meant that I had put the speedstep settings back to auto, does the chip select it's vcore or the motherboard on auto. I thought the default vcore was 1.224v for an I72600k. Looking around the Internet I can see that people are running at 4.5ghz with 1.328v and my motherboard sets that at stock.
No, it's just that a CPU Offset Voltage of Auto doesn't do a good job. I don't know why. It could be the way we like to tweak things. That's why I said to use a manual Offset starting at +0.005V. If that results in too high of a voltage, then use the opposite: -0.005V (minus 0.005V).

Either way, Speedstep, C1E and even Spread Spectrum should be set to Enabled.
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post #19 of 23
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No, it's just that a CPU Offset Voltage of Auto doesn't do a good job. I don't know why. It could be the way we like to tweak things. That's why I said to use a manual Offset starting at +0.005V. If that results in too high of a voltage, then use the opposite: -0.005V (minus 0.005V).

Either way, Speedstep, C1E and even Spread Spectrum should be set to Enabled.
Speedstep is set to auto C1E and spread spectrum are set to auto, it took 1.352v to get this machine stable at 4.5ghz. Do you think that this processor just needs more juice in general. I'm not sure what I should be aiming for in the stock settings. Would I have to enable LLC to combat vdroop with the lower offset. I tried 0.08 and it was around 1.240 but it blue screened on me.
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Speedstep is set to auto C1E and spread spectrum are set to auto, it took 1.352v to get this machine stable at 4.5ghz. Do you think that this processor just needs more juice in general. I'm not sure what I should be aiming for in the stock settings. Would I have to enable LLC to combat vdroop with the lower offset. I tried 0.08 and it was around 1.240 but it blue screened on me.
I still recommend setting Speedstep, C1E and Spread Spectrum to "Enabled".

Anyway, for LLC, I recommend trying "Ultra High". C3 and C6 should be Disabled if you're getting BSODs while idling if you're using an Offset.
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