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Let me just say that you are an inspiration to us all...!

Now, a couple of suggestions/questions:

Fan filters?
Fan on PSU is directed out of the desk?
What about HDDs?

Thanks

Finally, how are you going to "glue" the motherboard to the desk? Are you going to make a "socket" in the wood for it or use screws? Would it be upgradeable?
Probably no fan filters since it will be all positive pressure. PSU is tenatively sitting on the back, I haven't made up my mind 100% if I want it there, or underneath. Hard drives will go underneath.

I'm going to cut out the motherboard tray + I/O plate from my Antec 1200 and screw that to the wood, then mount the mobo to that. I don't see why it wouldn't be upgradeable, unless a new form factor comes out. Even if that did happen, I could just redrill holes on the mobo tray.


I should probably have a mod move this to the worklogs section eh?
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Probably no fan filters since it will be all positive pressure. PSU is tenatively sitting on the back, I haven't made up my mind 100% if I want it there, or underneath. Hard drives will go underneath.

I'm going to cut out the motherboard tray + I/O plate from my Antec 1200 and screw that to the wood, then mount the mobo to that. I don't see why it wouldn't be upgradeable, unless a new form factor comes out. Even if that did happen, I could just redrill holes on the mobo tray.


I should probably have a mod move this to the worklogs section eh?
Positive air pressure enclosures require air filters for to greatly reduce the dust buildup in the PC. Positive pressure without filters is only moderately better than negative pressure.

Also, what do you plan on having above the motherboard? Your layouts show an empty gap. Is there going to be wood/glass there?
Edited by nezzarix - 8/7/11 at 8:56am
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Positive air pressure enclosures require air filters for to greatly reduce the dust buildup in the PC. Positive pressure without filters is only moderately better than negative pressure.

Also, what do you plan on having above the motherboard? Your layouts show an empty gap. Is there going to be wood/glass there?
I have a positive pressure setup now with my 1200 (have 2 filters out), and I haven't had to so much as spray it out in 8 months since I built it.

Yeah there is going to be a piece of plexi covering the hole. I'd use glass if I ever expected to be putting anything on it, but I don't ever see myself using eyefinity, so it's not a problem.
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having filters over them would decrease the amount of air flow and since he is pulling air from behind a desk wall piece i doubt much air will be able to be stuck in there, also the back is open holes, so his silver arrow will push the air out, leaving hardly any time for dust to settle

For the PSU, you could just set it on some foam and somehow secure it to the desk. maybe a small wooden tray with some raised edges so you can just set the PSU in? I don't know if you plan to cut out the back of the desk behind the PSU or not so you let it exhaust and have access to the on/off switch. Hard drives can be mounted under the top shelf or on the second shelf or pretty much anywhere actually, but I would advise to put some sort of padding between the HDD and the wood as they do produce some vibrations.

After looking over the edited new version:
So I guess you are going to go with a few 120mm fans? I guess if noise levels are not much of a factor that works pretty well. I would suggest putting foam under and around the fans as well just to reduce as much vibration if that was not mentioned already

the removable side panel is a very good idea, better than the 2 doors idea I had, Although structurally it might cause some problems, I know that the back panel of the motherboard shelf is supporting the desk and the other side panel is as well, but with the entire portion of the side panel off it might cause sagging? not sure if it will though but just a thought.

Overall, I think it is a very good design and should turn out awesome. What kind of fans do you plan on using and will you just line them up or have them "inside" the wooden panel? Just curious as one option will leave them semi permanent ish
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having filters over them would decrease the amount of air flow and since he is pulling air from behind a desk wall piece i doubt much air will be able to be stuck in there, also the back is open holes, so his silver arrow will push the air out, leaving hardly any time for dust to settle
Yeah, I don't want to restrict air flow really.

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For the PSU, you could just set it on some foam and somehow secure it to the desk. maybe a small wooden tray with some raised edges so you can just set the PSU in? I don't know if you plan to cut out the back of the desk behind the PSU or not so you let it exhaust and have access to the on/off switch. Hard drives can be mounted under the top shelf or on the second shelf or pretty much anywhere actually, but I would advise to put some sort of padding between the HDD and the wood as they do produce some vibrations.
I might set it on foam or not, I'm not sure. I figure I'd just let it exhaust into the space it's in. Same as the air from the mobo. My PSU has little foam pad feet (at least I think lol, haven't looked in a long time).

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After looking over the edited new version:
So I guess you are going to go with a few 120mm fans? I guess if noise levels are not much of a factor that works pretty well. I would suggest putting foam under and around the fans as well just to reduce as much vibration if that was not mentioned already
Yep, going to. Any suggestions on type? I figured maybe just weatherstripping + some 3M double sided tape if its self adhesive isn't strong enough. I actually was worried about the 19" width being pretty much exactly the width of 4x 120mm fans, so I increased the width of the left cabinet by half an inch. Unnoticeable except if you knew about it beforehand.

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the removable side panel is a very good idea, better than the 2 doors idea I had, Although structurally it might cause some problems, I know that the back panel of the motherboard shelf is supporting the desk and the other side panel is as well, but with the entire portion of the side panel off it might cause sagging? not sure if it will though but just a thought.
I plan to overbuild the sucker with many angle brackets. I don't want any screw holes showing on any outside faces, so many brackets will be used. Plus I don't entirely trust screwing into the side edges of plywood much.

There is also a part of the design not really illustrated in drawings. I created (with much help) a steel frame that a 35" wide x 24" deep keyboard tray will mount to in between the two outside cabinets. The tray itself is height adjustable, while the frame stays the same height at 31 1/4". I will be able to raise the top of the keyboard tray to the very bottom edge of the desk if I wanted to, and any place lower than that.

With the steel 1" square tubing, it will help to carry the load of the middle of the desk quite a bit. It was designed to support 100% of the weight of the table top too. I can put all my weight on it.

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Overall, I think it is a very good design and should turn out awesome. What kind of fans do you plan on using and will you just line them up or have them "inside" the wooden panel? Just curious as one option will leave them semi permanent ish
Not quite sure yet. I have plenty of time to decide. I was looking at a couple that caught my eye. The SilenX and the Silverstone. I've owned the Silverstone before, and it was a solid fan.

The wooden panel in the drawing is only 6" tall, and touches the top of the cabinet, it doesn't go under the fans, so nothing will be permanent, and it will be easy to remove the fans if needed. I planned to sandwich them in pretty tight with foam strips.
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so the structure of the desk is pretty much settled then? it seems like for the most part the design aspect of it is pretty much complete. The details of the rest is what is left. For fans maybe get some medium or high speed yate loons or some gt ap15. You could have a fan controller sitting somewhere or if you have a fancy one like the nzxt sentry you could have it on your desk or something.

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I wouldn't have the PSU exhausting into the same space as the mobo, personally I would want clean airflow straight front to back to keep mobo as cool as possible. anyways the psu can be set pretty much anywhere I guess and will be fine, the only reason I suggested letting it exhaust to the back is because it prevents recirculation of the warm air from the PSU into the fans that suck the air blowing across the mobo. Also not having the PSU in the same shelf as the mobo allows for better wire management, so all you have in the drawer are the wires you need, making it look neater, and you have have the holes for the wires under the mobo so nothing shows when looking from above

Side note, since you have a big plexiglass looking down on your mobo, you could very easily rig some lights under the desktop around the plexiglass out of sight but hooked up to a switch say under the table but above the keyboard so you can light it up and make it look amazing etc
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so the structure of the desk is pretty much settled then? it seems like for the most part the design aspect of it is pretty much complete. The details of the rest is what is left. For fans maybe get some medium or high speed yate loons or some gt ap15. You could have a fan controller sitting somewhere or if you have a fancy one like the nzxt sentry you could have it on your desk or something.

EDIT
I wouldn't have the PSU exhausting into the same space as the mobo, personally I would want clean airflow straight front to back to keep mobo as cool as possible. anyways the psu can be set pretty much anywhere I guess and will be fine, the only reason I suggested letting it exhaust to the back is because it prevents recirculation of the warm air from the PSU into the fans that suck the air blowing across the mobo. Also not having the PSU in the same shelf as the mobo allows for better wire management, so all you have in the drawer are the wires you need, making it look neater, and you have have the holes for the wires under the mobo so nothing shows when looking from above

Side note, since you have a big plexiglass looking down on your mobo, you could very easily rig some lights under the desktop around the plexiglass out of sight but hooked up to a switch say under the table but above the keyboard so you can light it up and make it look amazing etc
Yeah, that's precisely why I wanted the PSU where it is in the drawing. I didn't want the hot air from it to get sucked into the mobo fan intake. The hard drives shouldn't produce that much heat, and I plan to have them near the very back anyways (I have long SATA cables).

Yeah I actually did think about adding a couple of CCFLs under the desk inside the compartment. I was thinking white. Blue, red, green, UV is all overdone.. white is classy. We will see.. maybe purple who knows.

I still need to figure out where to mount the power switches. Somewhere not visible preferably. Maybe on the back side of the front panel. Or mounted to one of the side panels below the mobo.
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If you wanted to get fancy/ really cool lol you could somehow mount the power switch of your computer and lights under the desktop like I had suggested so it is out of sight but also secretive and awesome lol
   
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So I've been busy moving and whatnot, so I haven't had much time to work on the project. I'm also waiting on a blade for the table saw for the plywood.

I decided to not trust Home Depot to make the precise cuts, and instead had them just cut the 4 sheets into 4 pieces each.



First I thought I could get away with using a circular saw for the majority of the cuts, but it seems like a table saw will be easier/more accurate.

I ended up building a very crappy support rig since I don't own any proper saw-cutting work area dealy-ma-bob or saw horses.





Since I didn't have a proper area to even MAKE the jig to cut the plywood, it itself came out crooked, unlevel, and unsquare. Oh well, it worked for a couple practice cuts, but I hope I don't have to use it much lol.


I tested out some stains on the plywood to see what I'd end up going with. First picture is "red" mahogany (looks quite brown to me), second is golden oak. I like them both. Not sure which I'll go with but I'm leaning towards the mahogany.




The left sample in both pictures was done using a rag, the 2nd sample was done with a brush. The brush came out darker because there was more stain on the brush than the rag.




Random shot of the table saw. It's in the living room because there's no way in hell I'm working outside in the 115 degree sun. Oddly enough the blade on the table is for the circular saw, and cuts TOO thin. Odd problem to have. The spreader knife on the table saw causes the wood to stop while feeding through. So I had to remove it and the bladeguard. I hope the new blade coming tomorrow won't have this issue. Never thought I'd complain about TOO thin of a kerf.


Ok, so since I have yet to really show how the keyboard tray will work.. here goes some pictures to illustrate.

First of all, the slides for the tray:



They are fully extendable 24" slides rated at 100lbs, so hopefully they hold. The wood for the keyboard tray itself will be ~36" wide x 24" deep.


My step dad helped me work on the actual framing of the keyboard tray rig in his garage. We took a trip to the metal shop and after I cut all the pieces he welded it up. He admits he isn't the best welder, but I could careless, the apparatus itself will mostly be not visible. If you refer to the drawing in my OP you can see the pieces of wood near the center of the desk will cover the metal up on the front.

Anyways, the tray itself was designed by he and I to be height adjustable from floor to table top. The slides themselves mount to a angle piece of aluminum, while the other side of it mounts to the square tube that will slide up and down the legs of the apparatus. The wood from the keyboard tray will sit on top of the angle piece of aluminum.







Slides mounted to the aluminum ^^



I managed to get the slides as close as I could to the edge of the aluminum. It was a bear making sure the holes for the slides were drilled just perfectly. Surprised I managed to pull it off.


Pics of the entire apparatus with sliding posts on legs:





Slide rails mounted to sliding square steel tubing:







Random piece of wood put on top of slides to illustrate keyboard tray:








In the last picture you can see the sliding post sitting part way up the legs






In retrospect I REALLY regret painting the apparatus. I should have just left it plain steel. I just wanted to guard it from corrosion and hide the welds a little better. The problem is that the legs weren't perfectly square so the sliding tube part scratched the hell out of the paint on the legs. I still have to bend the legs a little because it doesn't slide up and down smooth. I'm just afraid because I've bent them a little before and broke the welds, and it had to be redone. Plus with thicker welds now in each corner, it's harder to use a speed square to see if it is infact.. square, so I have to do it by eye.


That's it for now... sorry for the long boring post.
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very good man, i see the good job you did. keep up the good work, as far as i think, as long as it is sturdy and doesn't break, a little crookedness won't hurt
   
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