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What is your maximum budget?
$1500 shipped.

What country are you in?
USA - Texas (My friend is there)

What will be the uses of this laptop?
Gaming
3d animation in Autodesk Maya. (Typically not super GPU intensive)
Rendering 3d scenes via Maya. (CPU intensive)

Do you have brand loyalty or care which brands we select for you?
Brand name is meaningless just want one that won't die if it's in use rendering something for a few hours or more.

What screen size do you require?
15" minimum

What screen resolution do you require?
Flexible, higher the better really.

Are you looking to buy NEW or would refurbished/recertified/used be okay?
New, simply because it's likely to get some abuse rendering 3d animation.

How long should the battery last? (Under optimal conditions, no movies/games/heavy internet)
Not a big priority, will most likely be plugged in to the wall.

What games would you like to play with your laptop? And on what settings?
Left4Dead, Resident Evil 5, Possibly Battlefield 3... Medium settings should be fine at consistently 30fps or better

What operating system do you need? (if any)
Windows 7 Home or Pro

Is there a certain style of laptop you want? (aluminum, black, gaming, etc.)
Sturdy, this won't get moved around a lot but when it does it'll have to deal with airplane flights excreta.

How much hard drive space do you need?
Minimum of 120gbs

Do you need any special hardware? (blue ray, webcam, specialty ports, etc.)
No

Is there anything else we need to know?
Needs to be a minimum of 3gbs of ram, 6gbs or higher preferred.
Nvidia GPU strongly preferred for use w/ Maya software.

Hope this is enough info smile.gif Thanks for all your help.
Edited by [\/]Paris - 8/7/11 at 8:20pm
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This is pretty much my default answer for "gaming laptop, fast CPU, Nvidia". Sager NP5165 ~$850 base: http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np5165-clevo-w150hr-p-3063.html?wconfigure=yes , or Sager NP8130 ~$1000 base:http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np8130-clevo-p151hm1-p-2973.html?wconfigure=yes .

Notable specs- either can be configured with i7-2630QM or 2720QM. NP5165 has an Nvidia 555M, 8130 has a GTX 560M. Screens go up to 1080p. etc. etc.


Now, if your friend wants workstation graphics, the only way to go is Dell Precision or Thinkpad W520. These quadro graphics destroy even a 5970M in "workstation-class"(Maya, Solidworks, etc.) benchmarks. Honestly I think Quadro is *probably* overkill for undergrad, then again I use Solidworks, not Maya.

W520: http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/builder.workflow:Enter?sb=%3A00000025%3A00002D83%3A&smid=F2A3EC7C45634AE8AB0F26CCAC867854 . Quadro 1000M, i7 2720QM, etc. $1350 base

edit: All the laptops have a 1080p option. It's +200 on the W520, but its one of the best laptop screens. Both 95% Color Gamut options on the Sagers are of similar quality to the W520 screen. If it doesnt say the 95% color gamut for a Sager screen(only the base option), it's the lower quality one, will be noticable.
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post #3 of 17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jrbroad77;14492633 
This is pretty much my default answer for "gaming laptop, fast CPU, Nvidia". Sager NP5165 ~$850 base: http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np5165-clevo-w150hr-p-3063.html?wconfigure=yes , or Sager NP8130 ~$1000 base:http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np8130-clevo-p151hm1-p-2973.html?wconfigure=yes .

Notable specs- either can be configured with i7-2630QM or 2720QM. NP5165 has an Nvidia 555M, 8130 has a GTX 560M. Screens go up to 1080p. etc. etc.


Now, if your friend wants workstation graphics, the only way to go is Dell Precision or Thinkpad W520. These quadro graphics destroy even a 5970M in "workstation-class"(Maya, Solidworks, etc.) benchmarks. Honestly I think Quadro is *probably* overkill for undergrad, then again I use Solidworks, not Maya.

W520: http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/builder.workflow:Enter?sb=%3A00000025%3A00002D83%3A&smid=F2A3EC7C45634AE8AB0F26CCAC867854 . Quadro 1000M, i7 2720QM, etc. $1350 base

edit: All the laptops have a 1080p option. It's +200 on the W520, but its one of the best laptop screens. Both 95% Color Gamut options on the Sagers are of similar quality to the W520 screen. If it doesnt say the 95% color gamut for a Sager screen(only the base option), it's the lower quality one, will be noticable.

Yeah, I'd probably stay away from Quadros, He's not a modeler so poly pushing is less of an issue. Since he'll be playing games to a consumer gpu is definitely preferable.

Those Sagar laptops look like a good build, I'll definitely send a link over to him to consider. Any other manufacturers/models that might be a good choice?

Thanks for the suggestions.
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why not adding $99 and pick up the GT780DXR? it'll come w/ GTX570m
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why not adding $99 and pick up the GT780DXR? it'll come w/ GTX570m

That's getting out of his price range.
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Wait, Maya and nvidia? Fail.

nvidia purposely crippled their OpenGL/CL performance for their GTX 400 series and onward.

Get a Quadro or a Fusion APU.
    
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Originally Posted by MinitroN;14503663 
Wait, Maya and nvidia? Fail.

nvidia purposely crippled their OpenGL/CL performance for their GTX 400 series and onward.

Get a Quadro or a Fusion APU.

Personally I've had more graphical issues using Maya on our schools Radeon based cards than the Nvida 500 gpu I use at home. Nvidia supports open GL better than AMD.

I'm not going to get a Quadro because they blow chunks for gaming, this is a hybrid use laptop. He's not a modeler, so he doesn't really need a gpu that'll push millions of polys.

Anyway if you happen to have an article about Nvidia intentionally crippling their GPU's I'd be interested in reading about it, so far all i could find is hearsay of message boards. I know some friends have had problems with their 4 series cards but my assumption was that it was more due to the early gen 4 series cards being rushed out the door, and not because Nvidia had maliciously gimped the hardware. As I said, I've been perfectly happy with my 560's performance so far.
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Originally Posted by [\/]Paris;14505411 
Personally I've had more graphical issues using Maya on our schools Radeon based cards than the Nvida 500 gpu I use at home. Nvidia supports open GL better than AMD.

I'm not going to get a Quadro because they blow chunks for gaming, this is a hybrid use laptop. He's not a modeler, so he doesn't really need a gpu that'll push millions of polys.

Anyway if you happen to have an article about Nvidia intentionally crippling their GPU's I'd be interested in reading about it, so far all i could find is hearsay of message boards. I know some friends have had problems with their 4 series cards but my assumption was that it was more due to the early gen 4 series cards being rushed out the door, and not because Nvidia had maliciously gimped the hardware. As I said, I've been perfectly happy with my 560's performance so far.
Your personal preference doesn't have anything to do with nvidia being absolute **** for OpenGL.

A Q400 is 5xs faster than the 580 in CAD. It's pretty laughable.

They deleted the bit on wiki. nvidia probably paid wikimedia.
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MinitroN;14503663 
Wait, Maya and nvidia? Fail.

nvidia purposely crippled their OpenGL/CL performance for their GTX 400 series and onward.

Get a Quadro or a Fusion APU.

Did you not see the mobile line he's getting? GTX 500... not 400... tongue.gif Reread please and then post.

Toshiba Qosmio X775-Q7272 - $1,450 after adding in the 2 year extra warranty too.

You get a 1600x900 resolution screen at 17.3", 6GB of memory, Twin 500GB HDDs, a GTX 560m and a Sandy i7 which will easily handle anything he needs. this is also a 'refined' gaming model through this line. I.E. they looked at the old cooling mistakes and corrected them. biggrin.gif Not to mention toned it down to a 17" machine from the previous 18.4" monstrosity that I own. biggrin.gif

EDIT: Forgot to add that it's got a BluRay drive too.
     
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Did you not see the mobile line he's getting? GTX 500... not 400... tongue.gif Reread please and then post.

Toshiba Qosmio X775-Q7272 - $1,450 after adding in the 2 year extra warranty too.

You get a 1600x900 resolution screen at 17.3", 6GB of memory, Twin 500GB HDDs, a GTX 560m and a Sandy i7 which will easily handle anything he needs. this is also a 'refined' gaming model through this line. I.E. they looked at the old cooling mistakes and corrected them. biggrin.gif Not to mention toned it down to a 17" machine from the previous 18.4" monstrosity that I own. biggrin.gif

EDIT: Forgot to add that it's got a BluRay drive too.
Did you not see what I linked? That was the GTX 580 compared to a Quadro 400. Reread then post.
    
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