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Dude I understand all of this. I get this. What I'm very angry about is how it can't even run on minimal settings. That's all. The game should be playable, it's not a horrible system.
That's very understandable, but that's the limitations of a dual core unfortunately. You are right, its definitely NOT a horrible system. But if a game NEEDS a tri or quad core to play smoothly, then there's just nothing you're going to be able to do about it, even with overclocking.

Are you overclocked at all? Those e8400's had a tendancy to hit 4.0GHz easy enough. That could help a ton if you can hit that 4.0 mark.

For the record, my system before August 2010 was an Opteron 165 dual core (Socket 939), clocked to 3.1GHz and 4GB of DDR400 (at I think DDR566), with an HD4850. I used to say the same exact thing about how my system should play games fine. I then upgraded to an Athlon II x4, and at stock of 2.8GHz, that quad core was just a night and day difference.
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That's very understandable, but that's the limitations of a dual core unfortunately. You are right, its definitely NOT a horrible system. But if a game NEEDS a tri or quad core to play smoothly, then there's just nothing you're going to be able to do about it, even with overclocking.

Are you overclocked at all? Those e8400's had a tendancy to hit 4.0GHz easy enough. That could help a ton if you can hit that 4.0 mark.
Very true. GTA4 is unplayable on a dual-core. And btw, I have the same laptop as yours. Mine is so old now that it makes strange noises and it runs hotter than my toaster.
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Very true. GTA4 is unplayable on a dual-core. And btw, I have the same laptop as yours. Mine is so old now that it makes strange noises and it runs hotter than my toaster.
Yeah, it runs very hot. That's why I'm doing a penny mod on it this week to help cool it down. The GPU doesn't touch the heatsink at all, and that's part of the reason its so hot.

Off topic though, sorry.
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Just got the Dx11 and 1.9 patch on Cry2. I was at 1650x(xxxx) and it was slow fps. I just turned it to 1360x(xxxx) and it ran perfect. Settings were ultra. (No texture pack)... Is this what people call hitting the memory wall?

So the first part ran good when you're in the sub. WHen I was waking up in the next scene and looking around I was getting like .5fps... Is this right? I quit the game and went to restart it. And it would not load, didn't look like HDD was very active, and I checked the cpu load after it was nothing

Shine your light on me?

(I'm thinking I have bad HDD/Mobo)
There's no way around it. Your processor and GTX 460 are not going to max Crysis 2 out.... Plus 4 gigs of ram isn't really helping either. I've noticed that just like Crysis 1 and BC2 Crysis 2 is a memory hog.

Even the bump up to a GTX 470 would net a decent difference in FPS. However your processor still leaves a lot to be desired sadly.
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Dude I understand all of this. I get this. What I'm very angry about is how it can't even run on minimal settings. That's all. The game should be playable, it's not a horrible system.
Then lower your settings, overclock, and get better RAM.

IIRC your first post was about how horribly laggy it was on Ultra, and the answer to that is "WELL, DUH".

An alternative you have is to spend about a hundred on a Q6600, which should help a ton.

Pick up some better RAM when you've got more cash, OC the Q6600 and you should be running fine.

Not on Ultra, but you've got a shot at High or higher when you're using a quad.
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Yep the game is very hard on the system. I belive its not all down to hardware tho. I mean it brings my system down and I`d say mine is quite powerfull. Yes the game definately uses more than 1GB of ram at 1080p but I find 1680x1050 runs just fine, everything maxed. Im only getting around 55fps with dips into the 30s.

The AI is also supposed to be quite advanced so your dual core is undoubtedly gona bog down with lots of enemies around. Ive heard reducing the difficulty can improove performace in this situation but not entirely sure. You wouldnt want it too easy tho.

Experiment with it at 720p using the different difficulty settings to test that, also have task manager open in full screen to see whats really going on with your cpu, and also afterburber to see how the gpu is being utilised.

With 1 gtx460 tho I wouldnt recommend going above 720p and High detail settings to get a good playable experience. My system can just about provide that. The ultra settings seem to be very hard on the system but I honestly dont think the particle and other new effects are going to be that noticeable.
Wellcome to 2011, where games are coded so shoddily that reducing difficulty actually gives a performance boost. If it was any game other than crysis 2 or GTA IV i would call you a troll, but sadly i honestly beleive you
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Yeah I"m on dx11 now. It was some glitch because it ran fine now. Yeah it definitely drops fps quite often. But it's so pretty lol. Now I understand I'd need to upgrade to run crysis good. I think my cpu is actually slowing me down in that game and I understand it as there is soo much stuff it's processing. If I could OC it wouldn't be too bad. I've seen reports of people doing 4.6ghz in a dual core and getting barely any bottleneck in bfbc2 and what not. But my motherboard/memory are being difficult. So I'm just going to wait to a p67/sandybridge combo. Hopefully I can set it up within a month or so.
the e8400 at 3ghz should be enough to play crysis 2 1080p at very high setting with dx11. But with extreme or ultra you might get less than 30 fps.

Did you install dx11 first before patching to 1.9? that could have been the cause of glitch. Some people tried the dx11 patch with 1.8 version and they had problems
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Very true. GTA4 is unplayable on a dual-core. And btw, I have the same laptop as yours. Mine is so old now that it makes strange noises and it runs hotter than my toaster.
I played GTA4 on this rig (with an 8800GTX before the 460) and without trying to max everything out, it runs nicely actually. I'm not a graphics snob, so my old system was just fine. I realize that I do need a quad or better if I want to properly enjoy games coming out this year (read Arkham City and GW2), but that will come when the need arises.
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Very true. GTA4 is unplayable on a dual-core. And btw, I have the same laptop as yours. Mine is so old now that it makes strange noises and it runs hotter than my toaster.
Blasphemy!

I maxed out GTA4 with my Pentium D 820, 9600GT and 2GB 533mhz ddr2. Hovered around the 20-30 fps mark which I consider a moderate fps.
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At what frequency?

PD930, HD4550 and 4GB of 667's at 1280x1024, lowest settings.

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RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
2x KVR1333D3N9/2G Transcend SSD370 128GB WD Scorpio Blue WD7500BPVT Samsung SH-223C 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Thermaltake Water 3.0 Performer-C AKASA Ball Bearing Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Dell Ultrasharp U2311H 
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Armaggeddon Strike Eagle MKI-3 (Kailh Red) Dell (Foxconn) F320EM-00 320W 80PLUS Gold CoolerMaster Elite 341 CM Storm SPAWN 
Audio
Dell USB Powered 2.0 
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Intel Core™ i5 2400 @ 3.0 ASROCK Z68 Pro 3 M AMD Radeon HD 6950 Shader Unlocked, @ 900/1400 2x KVR1333D3N9/4G 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
2x KVR1333D3N9/2G Plextor M5S 128GB Western Digital Caviar GreenPower WD5000AACS Western Digital Caviar WD2500JS 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
LiteON iHAS324 DVD-RW DL Thermaltake Water 2.0 Pro w/ AVC DS12025B12U Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Dell Ultrasharp U2211H 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Rapoo V500 (Kailh Yellow) FSP Aurum AU-400 400W 80PLUS Gold CoolerMaster Silencio 352 CoolerMaster Storm SPAWN 
Audio
Fenda F&D H200 2.0 USB Powered 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i3 2100 @ 3.0 ASROCK Z68 Pro 3 M AMD Radeon HD 5770 1GD5 (Reference) 2x KVR1333D3N9/4G 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
2x KVR1333D3N9/2G Transcend SSD370 128GB WD Scorpio Blue WD7500BPVT Samsung SH-223C 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Thermaltake Water 3.0 Performer-C AKASA Ball Bearing Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Dell Ultrasharp U2311H 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Armaggeddon Strike Eagle MKI-3 (Kailh Red) Dell (Foxconn) F320EM-00 320W 80PLUS Gold CoolerMaster Elite 341 CM Storm SPAWN 
Audio
Dell USB Powered 2.0 
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