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A Thuban won't help if your just gaming over a well clocked 955/965, but they have a good chance of clocking higher period. They perform very well with multi-threaded programs, in games, they're pretty much equal to their Quad cousins.
Well I do a little more than just game, I'm a very heavy multitasker in my writing and blogging (more than it seems to suggest), and I do some occasional media editing, but nothing series.

The point of a Thuban is that they DO seem to clock higher, and have stronger IMC's for NB clocks and RAM results, plus they seem to run a hair cooler than their quad cousins.

Plus, upgrading from a current PhII x4 to a newer but same architecture PhII x4 to simply gain 400-500 mhz on the CPU and probably less than that on NB just doesn't *seem* worth it.

Make it 500-600 mhz on the CPU & NB plus add in 2 extra cores, it seems like a real upgrade suddenly.

Also wouldn't the 2 extra cores help with the GPU's in crossfire?

Finally, there are games in which 6 cores help considerably - Civilization V being one of them, and one of my favourite games, along with GTA IV (also a favourite) and DiRT 3 which I'm playing currently. Actually, of the 6 games I currently have installed, half of them show demonstrable gains with a hex core over a quad (the ones listed above).
 
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I'm pretty sure GTA IV only officially supports up to three cores, although anybody with a Hex will say it supports all cores. Crysis only supports 2 threads, but in-game, I see equal core usage across all four.

All in all, a Thuban will perform better overall, but it's still architecturally inferior to anything Intel currently has (but it's still better then any Deneb or Athlon).
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My sig'd rig is bottlenecking 1x 6950...
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A Thuban won't help if your just gaming over a well clocked 955/965, but they have a good chance of clocking higher period. They perform very well with multi-threaded programs, in games, they're pretty much equal to their Quad cousins.
I think thuban does great in having high min fps, I saw in multiple reviews that its min fps was higher than some i7s.
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Well I do a little more than just game, I'm a very heavy multitasker in my writing and blogging (more than it seems to suggest), and I do some occasional media editing, but nothing series.

The point of a Thuban is that they DO seem to clock higher, and have stronger IMC's for NB clocks and RAM results, plus they seem to run a hair cooler than their quad cousins.

Plus, upgrading from a current PhII x4 to a newer but same architecture PhII x4 to simply gain 400-500 mhz on the CPU and probably less than that on NB just doesn't *seem* worth it.

Make it 500-600 mhz on the CPU & NB plus add in 2 extra cores, it seems like a real upgrade suddenly.

Also wouldn't the 2 extra cores help with the GPU's in crossfire?


Finally, there are games in which 6 cores help considerably - Civilization V being one of them, and one of my favourite games, along with GTA IV (also a favourite) and DiRT 3 which I'm playing currently. Actually, of the 6 games I currently have installed, half of them show demonstrable gains with a hex core over a quad (the ones listed above).
For your non-gaming tasks a C2D will perform the same as a Phenom II X6.

Phenom II X6s are better than X4s but still aren't comparable to i5s and i7s in gaming (or i3s for that matter).

The northbridge helps a lot more than the extra 2 cores.

No games are coded for 6 cores and none will be coded for them. Even the games that can utilize 4 cores are optimized for dual cores.

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Good to know my CPU should be enough for CFX and good to know that Skyrim won't stress my system. Are you sure of that 2nd point. How sure?

Selling the 6850 and getting a 6950 seems like a waste - 6850 crossfire outperforms a GTX580 basically across the board, sometimes by a decent margin.

And the point to a 1090t is that:
a) it works on my current MB
b) it will reach over 4ghz CPU and near or more than 3ghz NB
c) it will allow my RAM to run at or above specs, instead of way below like currently

Bulldozer is of no interest to me since it would be a full platform upgrade also requiring MB and RAM (mine is 1.85-1.95v)
To save money, get a 1090T, which is what I'll probably do when I am forced to upgrade, although I won't need to upgrade for another 3 years, then I can wait another 3 before I actually upgrade. Why? Due to GPU bottlenecks, my PII X4 945 is more than enough to push CFX GPU's.
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