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post #11 of 19
WebOS, people should never have chosen Android, there wouldn't be this problem if they had gone with webOS.
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post #12 of 19
Didn't the courts already throw out the Oracle v. Google case?

Their complaint was over a single test suite released as open source on Sun's website. The Apache foundation used it in their JVM implementation, and somewhere along the way Oracle's license got replaced by the Apache license, probably by some automated process.

But of course ForumViewer is worse than I am in the whole Google vs Apple thing, so its all doom and gloom, Android is history etc...

Oracle doesn't own Java. They think they do, but they don't. They own the rights to the Sun JVM, but anyone can go ahead and make their own JVM. Hell I made one for a 4th year virtual machines class.


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post #13 of 19
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Google deserves to be taken down a notch. They created this open source OS, just so 3rd parties can use it with their devices and Google would be free from punishment; impunity. Just look at the HTC v. Apple case; the Microsoft v. HTC case.

Its laughable that Google is heralded as being the champions of open-source yet their search algorithm is more esoteric than the Windows kernel.

I just think its pathetic how Google is accusing Microsoft and others of being anti-competitive with regards to purchasing Novell patents when Microsoft offered to big along side Google.

The only reason Google declined was because it would have made for an even closer marriage to their very own creation that they seem to want nothing to do with.

It was purely a liability decision on their part and now they're crying because of missed opportunity.

This cocksure email only solidifies my feelings towards the praise that Google gets: I feel it's unwarranted, at least relative to other tech giants.
Sucks that Honeycomb (3.0+) isn't exactly "Open Source" anymore. Also all the manufacturers locking their boot-loader makes the Open Source statement moot. However, Moto and HTC have stated they weren't going to lock devices anymore, then Moto continues to, and now HTC puts out a tool, but with a nice warning stating it will kill your warranty.

Right now the entire OS/Handset Hardware technology branch seems to be more about suing each other then actually making better phones and OS's.
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post #14 of 19
I see this going absolutely nowhere, and absolutely nothing is going to happen to android.

It's too big now, it has the majority share of smart phone sales over the iphone and other OS's.
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post #15 of 19
iOS is actually bigger than any other mobile OS; because of the inclusion of iPad as well. Android isn't doing very well in the tablet market so far. It also makes developers the most amount of money.
post #16 of 19
Did you guys read the second article that had the quotes by Schwartz?

Based on that article, Google DID have verbal authorization to use Mobile Java (not the same as regular Java, including the licensing).

This is typical behavior by Oracle. Larry Ellison is an ass who thinks he owns the world and HE deserves to be taken down a notch. Hell you can take him on the next space trip and leave him on the moon for all I care... The bay area would be better without him.
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post #17 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by airbozo View Post
Did you guys read the second article that had the quotes by Schwartz?

Based on that article, Google DID have verbal authorization to use Mobile Java (not the same as regular Java, including the licensing).

This is typical behavior by Oracle. Larry Ellison is an ass who thinks he owns the world and HE deserves to be taken down a notch. Hell you can take him on the next space trip and leave him on the moon for all I care... The bay area would be better without him.
Seriously....people you need to quit thinking Google is the bad guy here. Oracle is the bad guy. They tried to destroy Openoffice.org, I think they've already ruined Solaris and the UltraSPARC systems, and now they're trying to squat over Java implimentations and hold back innovation and progress.
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post #18 of 19
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Seriously....people you need to quit thinking Google is the bad guy here. Oracle is the bad guy. They tried to destroy Openoffice.org, I think they've already ruined Solaris and the UltraSPARC systems, and now they're trying to squat over Java implimentations and hold back innovation and progress.
Thanks...

If only I could tell you the stories of what took place after Oracle signed the contract to buy SUN. 90% of everything they promised, they reneged on. The conversations I have had with my old SUN buddies is just depressing. Oracle has ruined SUN (although SUN was doing a pretty good job of killing the business through mismanagement anyway).

Part of what Oracle wants with JAVA is to modify it to run best, only on the hardware and software that they will create to run the Oracle software so they can claim the fastest platform for Oracle. There will be no way "legally", to even compete.
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post #19 of 19
*Google buys Oracle*
*Google rubs hands clean of Oracle nonsense, not that they were dirty*
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