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Yes, I know, I'm looked upon as a good sound guy. I'm having a tough time figuring this one out though.

In my living room, for my home theater, I'm trying to figure out if I should go 5.1 or 7.1. With 5.1, its not right. My surrounds are closer to being sides than real surrounds. I CAN do proper 7.1 placement though. However, 7.1 will require an amp for the rears (my receiver can do 7.1, but only has outputs for 5.1).

Most of my source is only Dolby Prologic or 5.1 at best, being DVDRips that I've downloaded (legally, since I do own the DVD's).

What should I do? Get another Dayton T-amp, and another pair of bookshelfs and go 7.1 that's properly setup? Or stick with improper setup 5.1?

EDIT (8-9-2011):
Uploaded some actual photo's of my setup as it sits. The chair is going to be replaced by a sectional soon, and I'm working on some stands for all the speakers.

Front speakers and sub, and entertainment center:


Surround right (or future side right, will be on a stand):


Surround left (or future side right, will be on a stand):


Potential location for the rears in a 7.1 setup. They'd be to the sides of my desk, raised up to proper levels on stands. :





Edited by pioneerisloud - 8/9/11 at 4:00pm
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Do you enjoy the sound when only using 5.1 or does it really sound wrong? If I was in your position I'd keep 5.1 for a few weeks at least to decide whether you do like it, if not you can upgrade to 7.1, if you do then you've not wasted the cost of an extra pair of speakers and the amp.Why can't you place the surrounds as rears instead of side surrounds? I assume you would have both sides and rears if using 7.1?
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TBH. If you don't NEED 7.1, then 5.1 will suffice.
I personally would go for a proper 5.1 than a 7.1.
Why not make your improper 5.1 a proper 5.1?
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Well, like I said, most of my source is only Dolby Prologic or 5.1 at best anyway. I do enjoy my surround sound as is, but I usually can only hear one of the surround speakers, simply because its right there at my ear. That's why I was thinking 7.1 would be better.

I've attached a ROUGH image of what my living room looks like. The rears in the 7.1 setup, would be right behind / above my computer desk. I couldn't show my desk, and my entertainment center in the picture, but just imagine they're there (and its not nearly to scale either).

Like I said, the rears are just too close as is for proper 5.1. But if I move them to the back wall, they're too close together, so they will never sound separate. That's kind of why I was thinking that picking up another mini amp and another pair of speakers might fix it.



I forgot one thing in the drawing too. Directly across from the front door, is a very large opening that goes into the dining room and kitchen. On the top left of the picture, there's another opening that leads into the bedrooms and bathroom.

EDIT:
Fixed the image to show that. Again, this is ENTIRELY not drawn to scale at all. The rear speakers as is, are right inline with the walkway into the dining room, right inside the living room. The furniture is basically sitting right on top of them (no stands yet).

Edited by pioneerisloud - 8/8/11 at 4:01am
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TBH. If you don't NEED 7.1, then 5.1 will suffice.
I personally would go for a proper 5.1 than a 7.1.
Why not make your improper 5.1 a proper 5.1?
See my above image. There's no way to make the 5.1 proper. The rears are either too close to where you sit, or they're too close together in the back, so there's no stereo separation.
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On a more positive note, I've found out today that my subwoofer will take 550w RMS of clean power for short periods of time (about half of "Put On, by Young Jeezy"). Not too bad for a driver only rated for 360w RMS.
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how close it too close? my rear speakers are almost directly behind me and i think they sound fine.
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how close it too close? my rear speakers are almost directly behind me and i think they sound fine.
That's why I don't like them where they are. I can hear one really loud (depending on where I'm sitting), and the other I can't even tell its there. That's why I thought they'd make better sides.
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does your receiver not have a correction algorithm like audyssey or mcacc or ypao? or can you set levels manually?
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does your receiver not have a correction algorithm like audyssey or mcacc or ypao? or can you set levels manually?
Well yeah I can set levels manually. The problem is, what happens when I sit on the other side? Then I have to reset the levels all over again. Right now its set to be even, assuming you sit in the middle of the room, but because that way its the same on both sides.
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