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im buying another 6870 so i might as well go with the BE.
since my normal 6870 has voltage control, im wondering if the BE 6870s are reference. i want NEED voltage control.

so are they ref or just crappy XFX boards?
    
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If it looks like the pictures in this one then yes.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150507

It has the AMD logo above the PCI-E slot. The problem is XFX likes to change the PCB without changing the model number so the card you get might not be the card you see in the picture.
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alright.
thanks for the input! i hope i dont get a craptastic one
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From my experience, back in the 4890 days I ordered my first one and got a nice reference model, but it had some weird stability issues so I RMA'd to newegg for an identical model and ended up with a craptastic version.

As far as I can tell from PCB pictures, if you get this version of the 6870BE

You will still have voltage control. I guess it's a perk of the black edition labeling. The PCB itself lacks the AMD logo above the PCI-E slot but looking at the PCB itself it looks identical and has the same arrangement around the voltage control chip so it's likely the same one. It looks like they actually have different part numbers, good for XFX. The HD-687A-ZNBC has the reference looking cooler. The HD-687A-ZDBC has the twin fan setup. The two fan setup appears it would do better than the reference cooler and be quieter but lacks RAM cooling if that's part of your concern.

http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi..._edition/2.htm
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I would be weary of this. My XFX was supposed to be reference.....It was not.
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From my experience, back in the 4890 days I ordered my first one and got a nice reference model, but it had some weird stability issues so I RMA'd to newegg for an identical model and ended up with a craptastic version.

As far as I can tell from PCB pictures, if you get this version of the 6870BE

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http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi..._edition/2.htm
lol i had the EXACT same issue with my 4890!
mine got static zapped or something, i RMA'd, then i got a crappy bad batch 4890 that artifacted out of the box. RMA'd that and they gave me a 5830 which im selling on ebay right now after a few months of use lol.

im buying the one with the reference blower cooler. i LOVE the reference coolers. and since my first card is reference cooler i want them to look the same.
so all the black editions have voltage control? SHWEET. i guess ill pray that its made of quality parts and can OC over 1Ghz like my reference.
    
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Reference has an indescribable feeling to it. I traded a laptop for a pair of 5850's without much of an overclocking history to them, it was just a simple "trade my unused older laptop for some stuff I can play with". Got them, they were both reference and that was only part of the good feeling. A few days later tried overclocking and one did 1GHz core clock and 950MHz on the other (not ov'd far either).

Also cleaned the stickers all off and the pure reference design looks absolutely nice .
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Reference has an indescribable feeling to it. I traded a laptop for a pair of 5850's without much of an overclocking history to them, it was just a simple "trade my unused older laptop for some stuff I can play with". Got them, they were both reference and that was only part of the good feeling. A few days later tried overclocking and one did 1GHz core clock and 950MHz on the other (not ov'd far either).

Also cleaned the stickers all off and the pure reference design looks absolutely nice .
thats awesome!
lol i know the feeling. when i got my reference XFX 4890, learned how to OC, then i was like this card is AMAZING!
it even had memory temps, and 3 VRM temperature monitors with full voltage control. it was great!
too bad i havnt seen any other cards have that many features
going to pray on getting reference 6870 reference
    
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Reference love . The only non-ref card that I've been almost completely satisfied with was my GTX460 TFII. Sadly the non-standard mounting holes barred me from using a waterblock. Got myself a likely-to-be reference 5870 coming in a few days woooo
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