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You don't want a 1.65v ram kit. Look for something that's 1.5v.
can i ask why :_?

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Either will be a solid card choice honestly. You should be able to max out almost all games with a 560Ti or a 570. The higher up you go, the more raw power you've got for high end games like Crysis 2, Crysis 1, Metro 2033, and similar. But for regular games that AREN'T system killers, the standard 560Ti is more than enough.

Do NOT get the regular GTX560. You want the GTX560Ti. The regular GTX560 is basically a GTX460 1GB (it has some slight differences but not much).
560 ti hawk is 400u$s and 570 hawk is 530u$s wich one do you think is better with those prices?
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can i ask why :_?



560 ti hawk is 400u$s and 570 hawk is 530u$s wich one do you think is better with those prices?
1.50v RAM is standard for 1155. You can use 1.65v RAM, but you'll need to raise your VCCIO up to 1.15v. It leaves you no room for overclocking the RAM.

With those two cards, I honestly don't know, because I don't know your currency very well. The 560Ti overclocked will beat the stock 570. The 570 overclocked will beat a stock 580. So its your call where to put the money at (or save it). A 560Ti overclocked will be a very solid choice. But a 570 is an even better choice. Just depends on your budget.
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you say no silver arrow, have you considered the Noctua NH-D14? It will net you better temps at 5ghz than any of the all in one liquid coolers.

If you want 5ghz on air and rule out the silver arrow and d14 you dont have much to work with especially when wanting 5ghz with air, things can get pretty hot with the volts needed for 5ghz even on an average chip needing anywhere from 1.39-1.48V , most chips need 1.5v or above, this is where something like the D14 or silver arrow will shine.

I had the h70 and it did ok at my tests at 5ghz temps hovered in upper 80s and never broke 90c but still very hot and that was only an hour of testing.

The h80 has shown to not be that much better than the h70.
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1.50v RAM is standard for 1155. You can use 1.65v RAM, but you'll need to raise your VCCIO up to 1.15v. It leaves you no room for overclocking the RAM.

With those two cards, I honestly don't know, because I don't know your currency very well. The 560Ti overclocked will beat the stock 570. The 570 overclocked will beat a stock 580. So its your call where to put the money at (or save it). A 560Ti overclocked will be a very solid choice. But a 570 is an even better choice. Just depends on your budget.
i dont understand the first part a lot but i think u are saying that i cant get better latency or higher speed ?? its better if i change them ?

i know that, but maby 570 dont overclock that well like the 560 ti or something like that idk its a hard decition

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you say no silver arrow, have you considered the Noctua NH-D14? It will net you better temps at 5ghz than any of the all in one liquid coolers.

If you want 5ghz on air and rule out the silver arrow and d14 you dont have much to work with especially when wanting 5ghz with air, things can get pretty hot with the volts needed for 5ghz even on an average chip needing anywhere from 1.39-1.48V , most chips need 1.5v or above, this is where something like the D14 or silver arrow will shine.

I had the h70 and it did ok at my tests at 5ghz temps hovered in upper 80s and never broke 90c but still very hot and that was only an hour of testing.

The h80 has shown to not be that much better than the h70.
i dont want them cause of the heatsprether

what about venomous x? i will oc to 5ghz if i got a godd chip if not i think im going to be forced to run it at 4,8ghz or something like that
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if you get a good chip the ven x should be fine.
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i dont understand the first part a lot but i think u are saying that i cant get better latency or higher speed ?? its better if i change them ?

i know that, but maby 570 dont overclock that well like the 560 ti or something like that idk its a hard decition



i dont want them cause of the heatsprether

what about venomous x? i will oc to 5ghz if i got a godd chip if not i think im going to be forced to run it at 4,8ghz or something like that
Just try to find some 1.50v RAM with decent timings and speed. Work with them from there. You'll have a lot more headroom.

570 overclocks quite far too. The 560Ti goes a LITTLE bit higher, but the 570 is still going to be a physically faster card. So yeah, its a hard decision. The 570 is going to be the better card, hands down. But the 560Ti is more than enough for most games.

Finally, the Ven X is a good higher end air cooler. So is the Megahalems, the D14, and the Silver Arrow. Any and all are going to be good choices on air.
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i really liked my dominators, they are made of aluminum, and they are really really nice maby i will need to get ripjaws x but its sad

**** its a hard decition for the gpu

ok venomous x with wich fan?
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i really liked my dominators, they are made of aluminum, and they are really really nice maby i will need to get ripjaws x but its sad

**** its a hard decition for the gpu

ok venomous x with wich fan?
Just so long as its 1.50v, 9-9-9-24 or better with DDR3-1600 speeds, you're fine. So pick whichever kit fits you color scheme and price range. Obviously the faster the RAM the better, but you'll want to stick with 1.50v because more is just more stress on your IMC on the processor, which means you'll have a harder time overclocking.

The GPU, the decision is yours if its worth the cash, not ours.

Fans, I don't know those very well. I've had great luck with high speed Delta fans, but they're also very noisy. So somebody else will have to comment about what fans would be good with that cooler.
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Just so long as its 1.50v, 9-9-9-24 or better with DDR3-1600 speeds, you're fine. So pick whichever kit fits you color scheme and price range. Obviously the faster the RAM the better, but you'll want to stick with 1.50v because more is just more stress on your IMC on the processor, which means you'll have a harder time overclocking.

The GPU, the decision is yours if its worth the cash, not ours.

Fans, I don't know those very well. I've had great luck with high speed Delta fans, but they're also very noisy. So somebody else will have to comment about what fans would be good with that cooler.
Thanks a lot i will see wich gpu im in mood to get

i think i just need help with fans and im done
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I do advise you to not purchase the Hawk (twin frozr III) 560Ti, I had it and my ambient temps will probably be about the same as yours.

Since the card is factory OC'ed it gets really, really loud.

I exchanged it with the twin frozr II, and believe me, the twin frozr II fan @ 100% is much, much nicer to listen to, quieter too. The twin frozr III sounds like a jet engine...

If you do use a headset or don't mind excessive noise, then go for it, it's a great card for the price in terms of performance.

Asus DCII coolers are also great coolers and very silent.
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