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Hey Guys,

It's me again. This time looking for everyone's suggestions on video cards. Ideally I'm looking to build an SLI system but I'm not completely set on it. This computer will be used heavily for gaming, though quite a bit as well with video and special effects editing. Because I'm using Premiere Pro 5.5 to edit I'm leaning towards nVidia with the CUDA architecture but I can easily be persuaded one way or another.

Here's the specs. I haven't bought anything yet, but I'm definitely looking at the HP ZR30w Monitor running at native 2560x1600. For now, just a single monitor. Maybe a second a year or so down the road. I will have a sound-card, so the video card(s) need to accommodate that. For a motherboard I was looking at the ASUS Maximus IV Extreme.

The monitor has a DVI input, but I'd much rather use the Display Port. I've been seriously looking at the GTX 580 based on many reviews and shouts of support on Overclock.net but the only one I can find with DP is an ASUS brand that looks way too large to accommodate 2 GPU's and a sound card. Please correct me if I'm wrong though. Currently I'm looking at the EVGA 580 3GB.

Last thing to consider is that I won't be making any purchases for this build until early-mid October (my deadline is my BF3 Pre-Order). So if you think the next round of AMD/nVidia cards will be out by then, that's something to consider. Perhaps a lower end card until late 2011/early 2012.

TL,DR: I Like CUDA, 2560x1600, Display Port, Possible SLI/Crossfire, must leave room for Sound Card. Sorry for the length

Cheers
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post #3 of 10
CUDA is just nvidia marketing garbage just like PhysX.

If you ever use any OpenGL/CL programs nvidia is also garbage for that.

HD 6970s in CFX outperforms a GTX 590 and matches the performance of GTX 580 3GBs in SLi.
    
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CUDA is just nvidia marketing garbage just like PhysX.

If you ever use any OpenGL/CL programs nvidia is also garbage for that.

HD 6970s in CFX outperforms a GTX 590 and matches the performance of GTX 580 3GBs in SLi.
CUDA is actually great for developing massively parallel software. It pretty much inconsequential for the average consumer/gamer, however its great a developer who can utilize it.
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GTX 590 if you were planning to get GTX 580 3 GB version already. Its just a bit more but you get 15-20% performance increase, power consumption will both be almost the same as you would only need a good 600 watt psu compared to a 500 watt psu for the GTX 580. Both will require good case ventilation as well.

Also as stated before the CF 6970s might be another option. Once again power usage is just ~650 watts and need a good ventilation case.

Also consider SLI GTX 570s. Cheaper than the GTX 590 with the same performance, but require at least a good 750 watt psu.

Depends on the psu you have now... it might be cheaper to go the GTX 570 route... but if you have to buy a new psu for it than the other options are better / cheaper.
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Originally Posted by MinitroN View Post
CUDA is just nvidia marketing garbage just like PhysX. If you ever use any OpenGL/CL programs nvidia is also garbage for that.
While I can't speak for the PhysX part of that claim, I can attest to having seen and worked first hand with Premiere Pro on CUDA and similarly spec'd non-CUDA workstations.

As Xazen said,
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CUDA is actually great for developing massively parallel software. It pretty much inconsequential for the average consumer/gamer, however its great a developer who can utilize it.
Adobe is one developer that has utilized this. Thank you though for the link to the 6970 article, I'll definitely give it a read.

In another thread I asked if posters preferred a single Dual-GPU card or two single-GPU cards in SLI and all that posted actually preferred the latter. I'd probably be more likely to go the dual 580 route before a single 590. Though price really isn't an object at this point, I don't plan on blowing $10k on a computer. I'll also have to look at the SLI 570's.

Thanks again for all your posts. Still open to opinions and suggestions.

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Originally Posted by bundok View Post

In another thread I asked if posters preferred a single Dual-GPU card or two single-GPU cards in SLI and all that posted actually preferred the latter. I'd probably be more likely to go the dual 580 route before a single 590. Though price really isn't an object at this point, I don't plan on blowing $10k on a computer. I'll also have to look at the SLI 570's.

Thanks again for all your posts. Still open to opinions and suggestions.

Cheers
People have issues with dual-gpu cards on this site is because they can't OVERCLOCK them like single-gpu cards. The GTX 590 is a very good card, and priced competitively for what it is .... the fastest card on the planet (also with the 6990 of course). Then people will argue about how dual set ups are better and more cost effective. Yes SLI 570 are slightly cheaper after rebates, but then you will have to need a SLI board, one more part of the computer that have chance to break...bigger power supply...more heat...etc etc.

SLI 580 is the best you can get out there right now for reasonable price for what it is. With rebates and sales now you can get two for under $900. If you can afford it go for these instead of GTX 570 SLI....there is actually 15-20% increase in performance. Both only require a good 750-850 watt psu to run.
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The only reason developers use CUDA is because nvidia pays them. Quicksync destroys CUDA.
    
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The only reason developers use CUDA is because nvidia pays them. Quicksync destroys CUDA.
True this, go youtube a quiksync demo.. its really fast
Lucid Virtu with discrete graphics is the way to go, wether its AMD or Nvidia.

I would go 2x 6970 to be a bit more cost effective.
Would go 2x GTX580 3GB if i had enough money to spend and make my e-peen grow even bigger.
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The only reason developers use CUDA is because nvidia pays them. Quicksync destroys CUDA.
In my original post I stated that I'm leaning towards CUDA because I use Adobe Premiere Pro as my editing suite. What you stated is true (and helpful) though in this case irrelevant.

Here’s a list of things that Premiere Pro CS5 and later (using the Mercury Playback Engine) can process with CUDA:
-some effects
-scaling
-deinterlacing
-blending modes
-color space conversions

It’s worth mentioning one set of things that Premiere Pro doesn’t process using CUDA: encoding and decoding. So while Quicksync may destroy CUDA it does so in encoding and decoding... which I wasn't so much concerned about with this thread.

My biggest question was more of whether or not the performance benefits from using an nVidia card with CUDA and the Mercury Playback Engine in Premiere is significant enough to edge out a similarly built AMD card (eg. GTX 580 vs AMD 6970).

All that being said, after doing my own research over the last few weeks I've determined that the 2xGTX 580's are probably my best bet. Now the choice I have to make is which brand? I'm tossing between the ASUS MATRIX and the MSI N580GTX Lightning. Any suggestions/preferences there?

Cheers
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