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Originally Posted by DaClownie View Post
Right, but this will open up the market for nVidia... When people have a processor with a low end card and need to upgrade the low end card because it died or something... AMD no longer gets a piece of that pie.

Those low end cards gotta be pretty much pure profit. Not an ounce of new technology to em. Shoot, they can probably build those things in their sleep by now.
I doubt they're gonna stop manufacturing them, they will probably just make and stick to making one model of a low-end GPU instead of 10 different variants, since the only reason people nowadays will still buy one is for some 1080p/Blu-ray watching on an outdated or OEM PC that needs GPU acceleration. Believe you me, Nvidia is still going to fail hard in this market, regardless of what AMD decide to do, as AMD is always the last to leave any specialized market, and this will be no exception (see the HD 3850/4670 AGP as an example of a market that Nvidia abandoned eons before AMD...FYI, AMD's AGP cards are still bought to this day, and sold quite well from my knowledge).

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Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post
Not really.... Both Intel and AMD IGP are basically "good enough" now for most tasks. If a user wanted to game or a GPGPU, they would not look at the lowest level cards. NVIDIA has been fully aware of the impending death of the entry GPU market for years.

The entry level cards do make up a large bulk of sale volume but the margins on them are much smaller. i.e. It might cost them $20 to make a $30 card and $150 to make a $500 card.
It's nothing even remotely close to that. They mean it just makes them less money than their higher end cards, they're not in any way lacking profitable-enough margins. The reason they're doing this is because they used to make dozens of different models, which is what costs AMD money and what they're hoping to cut out. They will now look for the cheapest possible GPU chip to manufacture and release it as one end-all entry level/discrete GPU and keep it being manufactured, which will save them money from designing say, 5 to 10 different entry-level variants. They will make 1, maybe 2 models tops, and keep them as an option for OEMs/system upgraders with old PCs, and believe me there are plenty of them left to date.
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post #52 of 80
Doesn't really matter to us. It's either Fusion, Fusion + High End, or CPU + High End. Fusion ftw.
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post #53 of 80
Thank god. This will make people stop raging at Witcher 2 being a bad game because it doesn't run on their 6450s, I'm looking at you Steam forums -_-

This will make them upgrade to at least something decent if they want to game.
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It's so they can put some more money into that awesome 'Ultra Pro Gaming' RAM. Hahahaha!
 
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Originally Posted by DaClownie View Post
Right, but this will open up the market for nVidia... When people have a processor with a low end card and need to upgrade the low end card because it died or something... AMD no longer gets a piece of that pie.

Those low end cards gotta be pretty much pure profit. Not an ounce of new technology to em. Shoot, they can probably build those things in their sleep by now.
depends on how low end the card is. The gpu might be cheap, but you still have to pay for MANUFACTURING, CIRCUIT BOARDS, I/O components and PACKAGING. The margins are VERY low on a $20 card.
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post #56 of 80
Expected.

And that's nice.
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post #57 of 80
this isnt a surprise. like who uses low end cards these days? if its only for web browsing then a APU or the intergrated graphics on the motherboard should do the job and if its for gaming then you need a high end card .
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sounds like a very smart move to me, as it should cut overhead costs some and free up resources that can be redirected @ R&D. So that way shareholders will smile with fatter pockets lol.
 
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Ok i'm interested in what they plan to do with their next series of discrete gpu's compared with their next gen apu's trinity and beyond. Will we see a new market tier of graphics cards with the power of a current 6870 to be considered as a low discrete card, that amd will start offering (like a 7870,7890,7,7930,7950,7990 as their full lineup of discrete graphics, with a 7870 being a low end and 7990 being highest performing? So much questions and speculation i'm throwing out, but it does get you thinking what the future will be like
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Ok i'm interested in what they plan to do with their next series of discrete gpu's compared with their next gen apu's trinity and beyond. Will we see a new market tier of graphics cards with the power of a current 6870 to be considered as a low discrete card, that amd will start offering (like a 7870,7890,7,7930,7950,7990 as their full lineup of discrete graphics, with a 7870 being a low end and 7990 being highest performing? So much questions and speculation i'm throwing out, but it does get you thinking what the future will be like
It'd probably be similar to their old lineup during the HD 2000/3000 days
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