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Not Virtu D mode they don't. Their boards that don't have a video out do not have Virtu at all. Their BIOS doesn't support the SB IGP at all unless it has a video out on the motherboard. And even then Gigabyte forces you do run Virtu in I mode only making it where you MUST hook up your monitor to the motherboards video output. This forces the virtualization of the discrete GPU killing performance. Virtu D mode virtualizes the SB IGP instead this way you can hook up your monitors to your Video cards and not lose performance.

Asus however does things differently. Their Bios allows you to turn on the SB IGP and use Virtu d mode regardless if the board has a video out or not. Gigabyte for some reason crippled their Bios to not allow this.

Edit:

This is what Gigabyte says on every board that has Virtu:

LucidLogix Virtu
* Make sure the monitor cable has been connected to the integrated graphics port on the back pane

This means Virtu runs in I mode. Making it pointless for high end machines and gaming machines.

Sadly....
Doesn't that just apply to H boards? I'm pretty sure you don't need to connect your monitor to your motherboard HDMI port for usage.
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No pci-e 3.0 support for 990fx chipset ?
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No pci-e 3.0 support for 990fx chipset ?
Bulldozer doesn't support it yet.
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Not Virtu D mode they don't. Their boards that don't have a video out do not have Virtu at all. Their BIOS doesn't support the SB IGP at all unless it has a video out on the motherboard. And even then Gigabyte forces you do run Virtu in I mode only making it where you MUST hook up your monitor to the motherboards video output. This forces the virtualization of the discrete GPU killing performance. Virtu D mode virtualizes the SB IGP instead this way you can hook up your monitors to your Video cards and not lose performance.

Asus however does things differently. Their Bios allows you to turn on the SB IGP and use Virtu d mode regardless if the board has a video out or not. Gigabyte for some reason crippled their Bios to not allow this.

Edit:

This is what Gigabyte says on every board that has Virtu:

LucidLogix Virtu
* Make sure the monitor cable has been connected to the integrated graphics port on the back pane

This means Virtu runs in I mode. Making it pointless for high end machines and gaming machines.

Sadly....
that is totally untrue, you have to have an HDMI out for D-MODE, their maximus 4 Z has it, and every asus board that supports virtu has at least HDMI out.

All GB H series have it and so do the XP boards. Considering that they have boards in every range with virtue, except for the UD7, but that will change soon I am guessing.

You have to use the HDMI output to use D-MODE. Have you ever used virtu? its a POS.

FYI ASUS and every other company that use virtu have to do it one way there aren't multiple ways to incorporate it.

FYI I HAVE 2 GB boards here a UD3H and a G1 Sniper 2, they both have outputs, the G1 Sniper 2 only has HDMI for D-MODE. FYI I ahevn't pluged in an HDMI cable, but Virtu software works, and I have settings in the BIOS to control the IGP, on both boards without cabled plugged into video outports. Have you tested yourself? or you just talk out of you know where?

FYI GB puts a lot of good notes when needed. Such as when the marvell SE9128 were out on X58 boards they could not do RAID 0 with SSDs, even though SE9128 was advertised to do RAID 0/1., and it was a very well known fact, that RAID woudl crash and burn on that marvell SATA 6G controller.. GB put up a warning on all their product pages, to this day asus hasn't even mentioned it, but you see people with Ramapge 3 extreme/formula complain about it all the time, as they have the Marvell SE9128 whcih can do RAID 0 SATA6G, just like the GB boardsthey can't do it with SSDs.


Can yodu o me a favor, show me a ASUS board that has virtu but no HDMI output?
Edited by Sin0822 - 8/9/11 at 12:19pm
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Where is my fast UEFI POST, Gigabyte?
 
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Doesn't that just apply to H boards? I'm pretty sure you don't need to connect your monitor to your motherboard HDMI port for usage.
Yes you do. Go read all the motherboards descriptions on their own site. I even called them about it asking. They all have "be sure to connect your monitor to the HDMI or Video out on the motherboard for usage of Lucid Virtu".

I also checked out the BIOS options for several after reading reviews stating what I posted above. I just don't get it. Lucid is great and after playing with it on several boards from MSI, ASROCK, and Asus they all have the option that supports Virtu in dMode regardless if the board has video out or not.

I'm just simply stating facts. If people don't like the facts than that is fine. Don't shoot the messenger.
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that is totally untrue, you have to have an HDMI out for D-MODE, their maximus 4 Z has it, and every asus board that supports virtu has at least HDMI out.

All GB H series have it and so do the XP boards. Considering that they have boards in every range with virtue, except for the UD7, but that will change soon I am guessing.

You have to use the HDMI output to use D-MODE. Have you ever used virtu? its a POS.

FYI ASUS and every other company that use virtu have to do it one way there aren't multiple ways to incorporate it.

FYI I HAVE 2 GB boards here a UD3H and a G1 Sniper 2, they both have outputs, the G1 Sniper 2 only has HDMI for D-MODE. FYI I ahevn't pluged in an HDMI cable, but Virtu software works, and I have settings in the BIOS to control the IGP, on both boards without cabled plugged into video outports. Have you tested yourself? or you just talk out of you know where?

FYI GB puts a lot of good notes when needed. Such as when the marvell SE9128 were out on X58 boards they could not do RAID 0 with SSDs, even though SE9128 was advertised to do RAID 0/1., and it was a very well known fact, that RAID woudl crash and burn on that marvell SATA 6G controller.. GB put up a warning on all their product pages, to this day asus hasn't even mentioned it, but you see people with Ramapge 3 extreme/formula complain about it all the time, as they have the Marvell SE9128 whcih can do RAID 0 SATA6G, just like the GB boardsthey can't do it with SSDs.


Can yodu o me a favor, show me a ASUS board that has virtu but no HDMI output?
Sure thing:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131753

That's just one. ASROCK also has boards that support Lucid with no HDMI output.

That's the whole point of Lucid having 2 options. dMode is made specifically for high end boards based on the Z68 chipset that do not have video output and is targeted for people like you and I who game. dMode as I posted above Virtualizes the IGP so you don't lose your dedicated cards processing power. And also allows you to use Virtu with no video out.

I do not post things unless I'm 100 percent sure what I'm posting is correct. I'm just posting the facts man. Don't get upset with me... If anything ask Gigabyte to put out a board or a BIOS update to allow you to use Virtu on their boards with no video output in dMode.
Edited by Cyrilmak - 8/9/11 at 12:49pm
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The only difference is that gigabyte during teh first days of release converted all their P67 line up to Z68 , then later changed those boards to support virtu.
Edited by Sin0822 - 8/9/11 at 9:41pm
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all their boards have some sort of video output man, none of them don't.

The only difference is that gigabyte during teh first days of release converted all their P67 line up to Z68 , then later changed those boards to support virtu.
Um apparently your not reading correctly. THAT ASUS BOARD DOES NOT HAVE VIDEO OUT AT ALL.

Also this is directly from ASUS on their site!

"* ASUS P8Z68 DELUXE motherboards retain iGPU accessibility alongside native LucidLogix® Virtu™ support for auto switching between integrated graphics and discrete graphics cards. This enables full use of Sandy Bridge iGPU features for improved media performance regardless of whether you use onboard or add-on VGA output."

The Asus P8Z68 Deluxe HAS NO VIDEO OUT. That simple.

Here's a more detailed view on the board:

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Int.../P8Z68_DELUXE/

If you find a Video out on that board please show me where.
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dude you edited your post after i posted.

I just looked it up again, you don't have to use the video outputs on the board itself to use D-MODe that is correct. On GB boards this is no different, except on the Z68X-UD4, UD5, and UD7, they cannot use Virtu at all, that is correct.

but all the newer boards, as teh Z68X-UD4 and UD5 have both been replaced you can use DMode without having to plug into the back of the board. That is what I am saying, i even have a Sniper 2 here and i can use DMode as we speak without being plugged into the back of the board.

you wanna know whats dumber tho? a A75 board with no video output.

The worst part about your post man, is that after you edited it you posted :
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I do not post things unless I'm 100 percent sure what I'm posting is correct.
as if you are a god sent from heaven.

FYI that picture i attached, shows how virtu works on GB boards specifically, it doesn't say you have to use the video output for Dmode, only Imode, and that thing asus did it weird, i don't see how they can do imode with no video output. You know why? because if you are using the VGA as video output, then its on, that is the whole point of virtu to power off the VGA. it makes 0 sense.

BTW here is my proof from hitechlegoin, they are a review site, really the top most search result for the asus p8pz68 deluxe review and they state:
"Hitting near the top of the Z68 lineup is the ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe motherboard. The P8Z68 Deluxe board is setup for the high performance user that requires more connectivity. Hardware features of the Deluxe motherboard include an LGA1155 socket for the newest Sandy Bridge processors. The Z68 Express Chipset supports up to 32GB of DDR3 with a max speed of 2200MHz with overclocked settings. There is support for both AMD and NVIDIA Quad-GPU technology. The Virtu software allows virtual use of the Intel Accelerated HD Graphics loaded into the Sandy Bridge processors. However, because of no display connectivity on the back panel of the P8Z68 Deluxe, only d-MODE can be utilized. The board contains quad SATA 6Gb/s ports with the addition of the Marvell controller. The added JMicron controller puts both a standard eSATA 3Gb/s and a powered eSATA 3Gb/s port on the back panel. Another feature is the dual Gigabit LAN using both an Intel 82579 and a Realtek 8111E controller. USB 3.0 is controlled through a NEC controller and features 4 total ports, two being on the rear and two optional with the mid-board header. ASUS provides a front panel expansion box for the extra two USB 3.0 ports with the Deluxe motherboard."

iMODE requires video out, there is no way around it. DMode might not require it, but iMODE does.

Edited by Sin0822 - 8/9/11 at 9:45pm
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