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Only read through the first page (so far) but let me respond to these:

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Originally Posted by james_ant View Post
Well there you have it, if you want to look at 150 pages at once Firefox is the way to go.
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Originally Posted by coachmark2 View Post
70 tabs? Really? That's a palpably unrealistic situation....

My experience with FireFox is that it consumes MASSIVE amounts of RAM in everyday use, which is rather annoying. I'm not talking 300MB mind you. More like 2.3GIGAbytes. Now with 8GB in the tank, it's not a problem. It just irks me to have a web browser use that much....
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Originally Posted by lordikon View Post
Chrome is also more stable if a single tab crashes, it doesn't bring down the whole program with it. And as others have said, who cares about 70+ tabs? From my experience I rarely get near 15 tabs.



That was a bug with Firefox 4, I believe that is fixed in Firefox 5 or greater.
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Originally Posted by Imglidinhere View Post
May I ask who in the living hell needs more than 10 tabs at any one point in time?

This is useless info just to pull users back to FF.
I open 336 tabs at once, once a day, every day. I also open two batches of 35 once or twice a day, every day. During the course of the day, however, I average around 3-5 tabs. So while we are not many, there are those of us who will be swayed by a browser just by how long it takes to open insane amounts of tabs.

(For the record, my desktop can open all 336 in about two minutes, shooting up to 3.3 GB of RAM at peak before trickling down to 1.7 GB. My laptop has to switch to virtual memory, which slows down its opening to about ten minutes. The only annoying thing is that Fx doesn't completely release all that RAM... when you have only one of those 336 tabs left, it is still using 800 MB of RAM. Close that tab, and then reopen the browser, it is back to about 170 MB or so. So no, lordikon, that is not fixed yet.)
     
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Chrome is also more stable if a single tab crashes, it doesn't bring down the whole program with it.
Interestingly I had a tab do almost just that today at work. The loading indicator stayed there for around 10 minutes and I couldn't browse to another page via the address bar, only via on-page links. I couldn't close the tab or the browser, but other tabs closed fine and worked normally.

The only choice I had was to open task manager and pick and choose which chrome.exe process to terminate until I found the one that killed the whole browser.
    
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post #103 of 251
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Originally Posted by Blitz6804 View Post
My laptop has to switch to virtual memory, which slows down its opening to about ten minutes. The only annoying thing is that Fx doesn't completely release all that RAM... when you have only one of those 336 tabs left, it is still using 800 MB of RAM.
browser.cache.disk.enable = false or move the cache files to a RAM Disk.
FF7+ fixes that bug where it doesn't release unused memory.

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Originally Posted by randomizer View Post
Interestingly I had a tab do almost just that today at work. The loading indicator stayed there for around 10 minutes and I couldn't browse to another page via the address bar, only via on-page links. I couldn't close the tab or the browser, but other tabs closed fine and worked normally.

The only choice I had was to open task manager and pick and choose which chrome.exe process to terminate until I found the one that killed the whole browser.
You need process explorer so you can see the process tree hierarchy and just kill the main one.

The article also explained how each tab is NOT run in a separate process like Chrome claims. One process can be responsible for 20 different tabs so if that process crashed, there goes those all 20 of those tabs.
Edited by PoopaScoopa - 8/9/11 at 5:26am
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Originally Posted by JohnDProb View Post
i have 200 tabs open, relaunched it took about 40 seconds for them all to come back up, whats that guy smoking?
It takes longer to open tabs sequentially as compared to simultaneously.

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Originally Posted by Kaze105 View Post
Mine uses around 900MB with exe and plugin container with 30 tabs. With my new RAM, it doesnt really mean anything even if its 4GB haha.
I have found Firefox is more stable with plugin container disabled.

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Originally Posted by CyberWolf575 View Post
There is an addon that makes your tabs shrink in FF. Also if you have more then 15 tabs open in Chrome, you wont be able to see the names of them. Which is why firefox did the scrolling thing. Personally i can't stand not knowing which tab is what. But for firefox there is an addon that lets you stack up to 50 tabs with their names still visible. Its perfect for my use.
There is? I have my TabMix Plus set to make tabs 80px wide, or as narrow as 22px wide if needed, and then my userChrome.css modified to make the currently highlighted tab 240px. I would be interested in checking out that addon if you have a link for me.

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Originally Posted by dave12 View Post
I know this is a news thread, but I don't get it. I keep seeing these threads about browser performance and don't understand how it is anything other than irrelevant minutia. Can someone point me at a link that explains why any of this matters and to whom?
As described supra, it makes a difference to me.

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Originally Posted by Tippy View Post
Once you cross ~20 or so tabs the tabs start side-scrolling off the screen, who has that many tabs open??
Make them narrower... you can fit more.



It should also be noted that when I have my usual 5-10 tabs open, I give a refresh all about once every 5-10 minutes. Firefox 5.0 is more stable than 3.6.x-4.0.x was, but it still is not as stable as 1.0.7 was. I miss that.
     
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70 tabs? Really? That's a palpably unrealistic situation....

My experience with FireFox is that it consumes MASSIVE amounts of RAM in everyday use, which is rather annoying. I'm not talking 300MB mind you. More like 2.3GIGAbytes. Now with 8GB in the tank, it's not a problem. It just irks me to have a web browser use that much....
Well considering windows would not allow a single process to use that much RAM I find that highly unlikely
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The article also explained how each tab is NOT run in a separate process like Chrome claims. One process can be responsible for 20 different tabs so if that process crashed, there goes those all 20 of those tabs.
The thing is that it didn't crash, it sort of hung, but not completely. It was rather odd. Fortunately I only had 10 or so tabs open.
    
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Well considering windows would not allow a single process to use that much RAM I find that highly unlikely
If I may quote myself...

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I am positive there is a memory leak still. I currently have open this thread, three moderation fora (no threads, just a listing of threads), the Marketplace, and 274 Sale/Wanted threads. This is my memory usage:



While I was posting this, memory usage has trickled down to 2.1 GB. Memory usage is 4.6 GB; pagefile usage is 5.7 GB.
     
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Originally Posted by nathris View Post
Firefox stores inactive tabs on disk, that's why the memory use is so low.

The reason it took Chrome so long is because the system ran out of memory, and had to dip into the page file, not because Firefox is any faster.

In fact, because Firefox stores so much on disk, even in normal situations there's a slight slowdown because it has to access the hard drive, which is why Chrome is faster and more responsive.
This is actually a real concern of mine. I have noticed that Firefox doesn't bother to clean up temporary files it creates even when running in privacy mode.

That said, I do frequently use that many tabs. Even firefox locks up time to time on me.
    
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May I ask who in the living hell needs more than 10 tabs at any one point in time?

This is useless info just to pull users back to FF.
Never browsed an image board eh?

or had someone with little experience using your machine

or had a female on a computer.
post #110 of 251
I open up 20 tabs at the most.

That's a worst-case scenario.

Well at least now we know if we want to look at 100+ tabs all at once, Firefox is the way to go.

Thanks, Wagner!
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