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I have built my current computer and have built several others just for fun while shopping. I have a basic knowledge of all the major components of a computer and what they do, however, I have a thirst for a greater understanding of every piece of hardware. My hopes in this thread are to gain a better understanding of the differences between Intel and AMD processors. I know the CPU slots they are compatible with on MB are different but I want to know the internal differences between the 2. I would also like to have a better understanding of how a CPU works. Exactly how does a quad core differ from a dual core and its advantages. Same goes for the gHz.
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AMD processors are using a far older architecture and are weaker than intel processors, AMD usually focuses on the bang for buck ratio, and cores, Bulldozer will be released in september and will be a comeback against intel for AMD, and also a new architecture

Intel updates their architecture every year or so and has far better processors than amd, They focus on performance per thread, and their processors mostly have large caches.
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AMD processors are using a far older architecture and are weaker than intel processors, AMD usually focuses on the bang for buck ratio, and cores, Bulldozer will be released in september and will be a comeback against intel for AMD, and also a new architecture

Intel updates their architecture every year or so and has far better processors than amd, They focus on performance per thread, and their processors mostly have large caches.
Just a small correction - AMD is not using an old architecture.
AMD is using their own architecture, specifically designed for reasonable performance @reasonable price. The fact that there are new Intel CPUs with new architecture does not mean that AMD uses old architecture.

Is the Llano old architecture? No, neither is the Bulldozer
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Also,I think you shouldn't underestimate Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition @ 3,3GHz(3,7GHz with Turbo CORE).By the time that 6-core CPU's released,ASUS released some stuff from ROG that may be good for overclockers.(I couldn't learn the exact ratio yet.)

(Please forgive me if I was too wrong,I was trying to learn and help)
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AMD processors are using a far older architecture and are weaker than intel processors, AMD usually focuses on the bang for buck ratio, and cores, Bulldozer will be released in september and will be a comeback against intel for AMD, and also a new architecture

Intel updates their architecture every year or so and has far better processors than amd, They focus on performance per thread, and their processors mostly have large caches.


you could have said to him that both companies are different .. and have their own way to do engineering on molten sand


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Just a small correction - AMD is not using an old architecture.
AMD is using their own architecture, specifically designed for reasonable performance @reasonable price. The fact that there are new Intel CPUs with new architecture does not mean that AMD uses old architecture.

Is the Llano old architecture? No, neither is the Bulldozer

couldnt have said it better
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Just a small correction - AMD is not using an old architecture.
AMD is using their own architecture, specifically designed for reasonable performance @reasonable price. The fact that there are new Intel CPUs with new architecture does not mean that AMD uses old architecture.

Is the Llano old architecture? No, neither is the Bulldozer
The Phenom IIs are 2+ years old. That's ancient in technology terms. Spin it how you want but that's the primary reason Intel demolishes AMD in performance.

As for the price/performance argument. The i3-2100 will outperform any AMD CPU including ones that cost much more.

Not to mention the difference in power consumption that inevitably comes with a newer technology.
    
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The Phenom IIs are 2+ years old. That's ancient in technology terms. Spin it how you want but that's the primary reason Intel demolishes AMD in performance.

As for the price/performance argument. The i3-2100 will outperform any AMD CPU including ones that cost much more.

Not to mention the difference in power consumption that inevitably comes with a newer technology.

you can't compare different architeture and claim one is better for everything ... one architeture is good for a goal and isnt for others ...

+ different company have different goals ...


so stop looking at the numbers only and look at the bigger picture .. wich is engineering


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you can't compare different architeture and claim one is better for everything ... one architeture is good for a goal and isnt for others ...

+ different company have different goals ...

so stop looking at the numbers only and look at the bigger picture .. wich is engineering
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The Phenom IIs are 2+ years old. That's ancient in technology terms. Spin it how you want but that's the primary reason Intel demolishes AMD in performance.

As for the price/performance argument. The i3-2100 will outperform any AMD CPU including ones that cost much more.

Not to mention the difference in power consumption that inevitably comes with a newer technology.
No. Intel beats AMD performancewise, because Intel builds its marketing strategy on that. AMD builds on cheap producs, because AMD is cheaper company, unable to invest the same amount of money as Intel for CPU production.

That does not mean that AMD rests on old tech. Remember, AMD were the first to make 64bit CPUs. The AMD guys work as hard as Intel guys on developing new tech Just the focus is shifted.

Right now Intel pushes the bounds of CPU speed, where AMD works on platform compatibility. After they bought ATi, now you can build a complete system only with AMD components (until recently - impossible for Intel).

You can have AMD CPU, GPU, chipset and RAM => the Dragon Platform. Soon, another platform (the APU) will take over.

As you can see, AMD does its fair share of tech push, just in different direction
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No. Intel beats AMD performancewise, because Intel builds its marketing strategy on that. AMD builds on cheap producs, because AMD is cheaper company, unable to invest the same amount of money as Intel for CPU production.

That does not mean that AMD rests on old tech. Remember, AMD were the first to make 64bit CPUs. The AMD guys work as hard as Intel guys on developing new tech Just the focus is shifted.

Right now Intel pushes the bounds of CPU speed, where AMD works on platform compatibility. After they bought ATi, now you can build a complete system only with AMD components (until recently - impossible for Intel).

You can have AMD CPU, GPU, chipset and RAM => the Dragon Platform. Soon, another platform (the APU) will take over.

As you can see, AMD does its fair share of tech push, just in different direction
This is so fail I don't know where to begin. I really don't care about the companies' histories, the fact is the Phenom II is 2+ years old while SB came out this year. That's the reason SB crushes Phenom II. Sounds like old technology to me.

I don't think it's AMD's strategy to get creamed by Intel in just about every area.

So AMD working on platform compatibility is the reason their processors are snails compared to Intel?

Here's a tidbit, Intel dominates the APU market.
    
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