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since when adding more cores = new architecture??
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post #22 of 38
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since when adding more cores = new architecture??
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post #23 of 38
Once again a thread started by a new member further fanning the flames of the intel vs amd war...Christ Almighty this is annoying.
post #24 of 38
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Once again a thread started by a new member further fanning the flames of the intel vs amd war...Christ Almighty this is annoying.
It had the potential not to be, he wanted to know difference in architecture and how they work etc etc not an argument on which is better. Some OCN'ers just can't help themselves.
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I've been a fan of AMD's price-performance ratio for many years now, both at home and at work. However, there is an uncanny similarity between AMD's K8 and K10 architectures (apart from further additions to an already bloated x86 instruction set, instruction pre-fetch advances, and minor execution pipeline enhancements).

Nonetheless, I have found that writing highly scalable/threaded programs that can run on a 6-core, sub $200 price-point, CPU is highly rewarding. (Assuming 6 compute-bound, highly prioritized, threads )

Now, if you're a programmer that can't thread to save his own life, then AMD isn't for you.

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post #26 of 38
Well this must be the first of thousands where a thread posted by a member with less than 10 posts, no rep, has made a thread asking about amd/intel with genuine interest, as apposed to all the other new members who have no life and just registered to piss people off
post #27 of 38
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This is so fail I don't know where to begin. I really don't care about the companies' histories, the fact is the Phenom II is 2+ years old while SB came out this year. That's the reason SB crushes Phenom II. Sounds like old technology to me.

I don't think it's AMD's strategy to get creamed by Intel in just about every area.

So AMD working on platform compatibility is the reason their processors are snails compared to Intel?

Here's a tidbit, Intel dominates the APU market.
Even a Lynnfield chip can beat (Not crush it, but still beats it) a PH II X6 chip.
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post #28 of 38
First-off, I got sick of typing 'I believe' so now I'm just warning people here that this is mostly my OPINION, with plenty of facts.

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Originally Posted by AMDrocks View Post
AMD processors are using a far older architecture and are weaker than intel processors, AMD usually focuses on the bang for buck ratio, and cores, Bulldozer will be released in september and will be a comeback against intel for AMD, and also a new architecture

Intel updates their architecture every year or so and has far better processors than amd, They focus on performance per thread, and their processors mostly have large caches.
I greatly agree with this. If you have the cash Intel does deliver greater processors.

I believe people are feeling "old(er) architecture" as insulting or something in that direction. Could also be that it's a misunderstanding.
One should first off-all realize that Intel and AMD have completely different designs and architecture so judging by age is difficult. It is however true that AMD has not launched a refresh of architecture in quite some time, they have added cores but as dealio said, that does not equal a architecture change.

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since when adding more cores = new architecture??
Intel has however moved I would say more aggressively and developed great powerful chips that deliver so much power. Intel does this as that is there goal and because they are good at it. (This aggressive play also lead to SATA problems.)

AMD is trying to move away from the CPU area and heading into APU's. With Bulldozer being on the horizon for quite some time now the wait is becoming very long.

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This is so fail I don't know where to begin. I really don't care about the companies' histories, the fact is the Phenom II is 2+ years old while SB came out this year. That's the reason SB crushes Phenom II. Sounds like old technology to me.

I don't think it's AMD's strategy to get creamed by Intel in just about every area.

So AMD working on platform compatibility is the reason their processors are snails compared to Intel?
(blah blah)

Here's a tidbit, Intel dominates the APU market.
Though it is true that Intel is currently dominating I find AMD's APU's to be so much more innovating and respectable. I agree with AMD on many terms. Intel's lead is mostly because of there earlier launch.

Intel's APU's have been designed (IIRC) for 50%CPU, 33%NB, 16%GPU.
AMD values graphical performance far higher than Intel does thus designing their chips to be 50% GPU (not sure about these=>) 25% CPU & 25% SB.
Here for I say Llano > SB in simple solutions (laptops and ITX/MicroATX) but when going for a dedicated graphics a Intel Sandy Bridge CPU is what you want. Lower budget? Try the i3's...

E:
Also nice to note is that the CPU's in the new Llano APU's are still based on the Phennom-II architecture.
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post #29 of 38
This thread turned into a war. Who would have thought?

Bottom line, if you want good performance at low cost, go with AMD. If you want maximum performance and are willing to pay more, go with Intel.

I am an Intel enthusiast, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with AMD products. AMD builds solid, dependable processors at a more affordable price. They just aren't on the cutting edge right now.
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post #30 of 38
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(This aggressive play also lead to SATA problems.)
Seriously?

Intel focuses on core performance
AMD focuses on the number of cores

Not to mention that Llano is pretty much PH II+GPU, unless you are talking about the BD Llano. Also, Ivy is set to have 30% more GPU power and 20% more CPU power, AMD isn't exactly innovating here.

EDIT:
And as expected, this thread is going to go downhill.
Edited by somebodysb2 - 8/12/11 at 5:13pm
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