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Was wondering if anyone here was running Scythe GT AP-15s on their RS240 in push/pull intake.

I'm curious as to the temp drop over using the normal OEM fans, also what the temp difference is on this system running a normal push setup vs push/pull.
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I haven't tested the normal OEM fans on an RS240, but I do know that AP-15's work wonderfully. Tested multiple fans on them, and AP-15's produced the best results.

As for push/pull vs just push, it depends on how much heat is being dissipated by the radiator. I got about a 3C drop doing push/pull vs just pull, it could be more significant if your radiator is dissipating more heat.
    
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I haven't tested the normal OEM fans on an RS240, but I do know that AP-15's work wonderfully. Tested multiple fans on them, and AP-15's produced the best results.

As for push/pull vs just push, it depends on how much heat is being dissipated by the radiator. I got about a 3C drop doing push/pull vs just pull, it could be more significant if your radiator is dissipating more heat.
I have a couple upgrades planned for my system the parts should be coming in soon, firstly a 970 which clocks easily to 4.4ghz@1.35v(tested already), Asus Rampage III formula motherboard and then the RASA kit, currently have a H50 with push/pull scythe and the temps on my 930 4GHZ@1.29v at 72 in linx 20pass.

From what I've heard the RS240 should give amazing temps at that volts.
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I have a couple upgrades planned for my system the parts should be coming in soon, firstly a 970 which clocks easily to 4.4ghz@1.35v(tested already), Asus Rampage III formula motherboard and then the RASA kit, currently have a H50 with push/pull scythe and the temps on my 930 4GHZ@1.29v at 72 in linx 20pass.

From what I've heard the RS240 should give amazing temps at that volts.
From personal experience, it isn't a huge difference over an H50. I went from a Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme rev. c to an H50 to a Rasa 750 RS240 kit. I was getting about 73C from my H50 when my i5 2500K was at 4.4 GHz, and now, it's around 63C (with 2 of the 4 cores in the upper 50's). So, I wouldn't expect more than a 10-12C drop in temps, and an i7 970 will run hotter too. I'd suggest at least a RS360 radiator.
    
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From personal experience, it isn't a huge difference over an H50. I went from a Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme rev. c to an H50 to a Rasa 750 RS240 kit. I was getting about 73C from my H50 when my i5 2500K was at 4.4 GHz, and now, it's around 63C (with 2 of the 4 cores in the upper 50's). So, I wouldn't expect more than a 10-12C drop in temps, and an i7 970 will run hotter too. I'd suggest at least a RS360 radiator.
Really? So that would mean an H100(push/pull) would be cooling exactly the same as a RASA RS240 kit in push/pull if not better. From what I'm reading on the H100 threads guys who moved from H50's are reporting 10-20 degree drops over their H50. So is this RS240 kit not so good if you only want to cool the CPU? So has the closed loop systems finally caught up to proper water?

As for the 970 being hotter well I think it might actually run cooler considering its 32nm opposed to my 930 which is 45nm.
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Really? So that would mean an H100(push/pull) would be cooling exactly the same as a RASA RS240 kit in push/pull if not better. From what I'm reading on the H100 threads guys who moved from H50's are reporting 10-20 degree drops over their H50. So is this RS240 kit not so good if you only want to cool the CPU? So has the closed loop systems finally caught up to proper water?

As for the 970 being hotter well I think it might actually run cooler considering its 32nm opposed to my 930 which is 45nm.
It wont run cooler because you are generating the same amount of heat (130w tdp) note this not overclocked. my 970 at 4.2ghz @ 1.4v runs up to ~70-72 on ITB or prime 95 with a gtx 470 dumping heat into the rad. Ill add a link to pics of my sig rig
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Those are pretty high, If you didn't have the GPU in the loop what would be ur cpu temps? I thought the RASA kits were supposed to be A LOT better then the H100, guess real water is waste(least the RS240).

I see you sig says you get 4.2 @ 1.31 HT on what are your load temps like now?
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Really? So that would mean an H100(push/pull) would be cooling exactly the same as a RASA RS240 kit in push/pull if not better. From what I'm reading on the H100 threads guys who moved from H50's are reporting 10-20 degree drops over their H50. So is this RS240 kit not so good if you only want to cool the CPU? So has the closed loop systems finally caught up to proper water?

As for the 970 being hotter well I think it might actually run cooler considering its 32nm opposed to my 930 which is 45nm.
An H100 costs $120 minus shipping, while a RASA 750 RS240 costs $130 minus shipping, therefore i wouldn't overly expect the RASA kit to outperform it by much. Considering that there is only the pump/cpu block and the radiator to pump fluid through, instead of a waterblock, then radiator, then res/pump. If you bought a better radiator and/or pump, you'd be able to easily beat H100 temps. The Rasa 750 RS240 is a mediocre kit btw.

As for the i7 970, just because it's 32nm, doesn't mean it'll run cooler. Just take a look at the 32nm i7 2600K's, they are 4 cores/8 threads and run decently hot (cooler than 1st gen i7's though), 6 cores and 12 threads will be even hotter. Clock for clock, the i7 970 uses more power than the i7 930.
    
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I thought the pump on the RS240 was good? More then sufficient for a 240mm rad. Would changing the CPU block make a notable difference to temps?
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I thought the pump on the RS240 was good? More then sufficient for a 240mm rad. Would changing the CPU block make a notable difference to temps?
Changing the block would defeat the point of the kit besides the fact that to better the Rasa block would mean shelling out 80 bucks for 1/2 a degree change.

I don't get why you'd get a budget kit then throw on a set of AP15s which costs about double the rad you're putting them on. I would try the stock fans which are well matched to the rad first before moving on. And when I moved on, I might look at YL med to high speed fans.

The pump in the kit can handle a lot more than 1 block, upto 3 blocks is about the limit.

Ya know, if you are willing to dump 80 bucks into fans, ya might think about taking that money an getting the RX240 or RX360 kit instead.
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